Time to Upgrade ?:-}

Is there any way to tell what type a specific program is? I haven't updated my PSpice since 2003 when OrCAD Crapture and Cadence stopped improving PSpice (simulator) and tried to force everyone onto Crapture :-( ...Jim Thompson

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that shuold work just fine, I doubt very much if that has 16 bit code in it.

There is DosBox however, don't expect to do anything in DosBox that may involve a direct port read/write device, to work.

There are some printer drivers and serial drivers that do emulate a direct port read/write, but don't depend on it working because many devices that did that back then also used software timing loops for reads/writes and that most likely will fail..

Jamie

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I think if you open the exe up with a hex editor, and look at x0100, if you see 'PE', then its a portable exe 32bit app.

Also if you change the compatibility settings under Win7, it will only list Vista and up if it is 64bit, 32bit apps will show XP 98 95 etc.

Cheers

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Thanks, Martin! ...Jim Thompson

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[snip antidiluvian PC spec]

No. Just buy the Win7 pro version of the OS so that you will have an XP fallback license to run in a VM for any tetchy ancient 32 bit apps. You could do it manually with one of several other VM products but I am guessing you don't get on with software so the MS out of the box solution is probably your path of least resistance.

Expect some problems with very old installers on 64bit OS but most things will run in a 32bit VM unless they are very badly behaved.

Many 32 bit programs will run OK on the 64bit OS although their installers which use archaic 16bit components may not!

The huge advantage of 64 bit memory space being >4GB is worth it!

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If you have 32 bit apps to worry about, how come you don't have media for it? I made an image of my old XP machine and can run it as a VM at will. I even tested the OEM install; it works and was activated with Microsoft .

Nearly everything runs on Win7 64 bit IME.

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On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 18:19:24 -0500, Les Cargill Gave us:

Not without signed drivers.

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I just transitioned from XP to W7pro 64-bit. Everything works, and the annoying UI interface changes have been mostly patched up. [1]

Old 16-bit apps won't run. Old 32-bit stuff works fine. And Google Earth works again. Could have been a lot worse.

[1] how can I get rid of the "system view" junk on the left side of Explorer panes?
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Use Google Chrome instead. 

John Fields
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formatting link

Pretty painless, except that ctl-home doesn't get you genuine full screen mode.

Cheers

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I meant the file explorer, not the browser. As if I would ever use IE!

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I said that I was running Windows, and I didn't say "Internet Explorer."

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Indeed, but since there were two choices and you defined neither, your assumption that clarity is inherent in your writing was flawed.

John Fields

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You keep getting crazier.

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Fun is designing new stuff in CRAZY (unconventional) ways; not buying into the boring/conventional set of assumptions but, rather, thinking outside the *globe* (i.e., not "box").

I worked with a firm that designed electronic door locks. No wires *to* the door (power or signal!) keeps installation costs low.

No "antenna" in the door/lock.

Yet, the locks could be reprogrammed at will -- for no "extra"/special labor costs ("rekeying" is expensive in hotels, large businesses, etc. "Bob was fired today. But, he didn't turn in his keys! Get someone in here to rekey the locks to which he had access..." or "The guest in room 2701 took their key when they checked out. We've billed their account. But, need to make sure they don't let themselves back into the room now that its being rented to another party").

"Can't be done!" "Of COURSE it can! *Here* it is!" "Ahhhh... but... Hmmm, that's clever!"

Those are the moments that make engineering *fun*. Not building a faster/cheaper/smaller/bigger version of last year's product, etc. But, it puts a lot of people "off" -- there's more risk, more uncertainty, more to LEARN...

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Yes, 555 chips provide endless creative opportunities.

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This month Friday the 13th came on a Thursday, and the folks on rec.crafts.metalworking spent the day discussing silver bullets. Perhaps that's why John L's comment reminded me of this story about an Electronics 501 Lab Exercise from Pottsylvania Tech, Inc. (PTUI):

Problem: Given a 555 chip, measure the height of an apartment building.

Many of the answers were (electronically) striaghtforward, involving counters, gates, and a host of Rube-Goldbergesque sensor arrangements. The most memorable, however, was submitted one year by the lab team of N. Fatale and B. Badenov, and it went like this:

  1. Steal a second 555 chip from another student team.
  2. Breed the two chips and their offspring, using several tons of sand misappropriated from a local beach.
  3. Once you have 1,000 chips on hand, trade them to the apartment building manager in exchange for a copy of the building's plans. (The apartment manager will then make a handsome profit selling the 555s to Las Vegas casinos as "cryptographically-secure poker chips".)
  4. The building plans will contain the height of the building.

It was only when their professor asked the two students to repeat their experiment that the two ran into trouble. This time they accidentally wound up with two male 555 chips, which they were unable to breed. As a result, the professor failed them for falsifying data, plagiarism, theft of beach sand, and general no-goodnik-ness and they were dismissed from the University.

One good thing did come out of all this for Boris and Natasha, however: the professor's description of their thoroughly unethical and illegal behavior came to the notice of the professor's cousin (one F. Leader) who hired them to spy on unusual activity in the United States.

Oh, and the breeding of 555s was left as an EFS (Exercise for Students).

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