High-voltage low-wattage computer -- any advantages?

Jul 20, 2006 15 Replies

Hi:



Would a computer designed to use high-voltage [around 10,000 volts], low-wattage [around 0.000001 watt] have any advantage over conventional computers? In this high-volt, low-watt PC, all of the components [motherboard, cpu, memory, video system (including the monitor), sound system (including the speakers)] rely on the high-voltage, low-power electricity. Speakers and monitor are purely digital and also use the high-voltage, low-power digital electricity. Speakers do not contain any diaphragm, instead they rely on "electrifying" the air to produce sound. The electric current directly causes the air molecules to vibrate and produce sound -- this makes it easy to reproduce high-frequency sounds than using a conventional speaker.



In this system, the voltage is high but the amperage is *extremely* low.


Thanks,



Radium



Quite the opposite in fact, given that most, if not all insulators have a breakdown voltage - IE electricity will start to flow across them once the voltage reaches a certain level, sometimes over quite large distances, coupled with the fact that the distance between conductors on motherboards alone is often quite small. couple that with the fact that the distance between conductors on high density IC's such as processors is uncreadibly small... you will see problems.

CPU's typically run at low voltages (say 1.5v - 3v) for this reason - to avoid electrical leakage between components on the chip.

I'm not saying it's not possible to build a computer that uses high voltages, but it would have to be huge. The higher the voltage, the larger the distance you need between individual components (specifically thinking of IC's here). In a world where manufacturers are trying to sqeeze as much into a small a space as possible...

There is also the safety issue to think of. Being a technican, I like to work inside computers, sometimes changing floppy drives whilst the computers still running, and fans etc. I would not be happy with working on a computer that ran at 10,000 volts, even if it was switched off (oh btw the capacitors would have to be huge too)

I like this idea of 'electrifying the air' to produce sound... is this a thought process ofshot or is it something you know exists? I would be interested to hear any theories/products that do this.

Mark

Please don't feed the trolls. Move along, now, everyone, there's nothing to see here....

Bob M.

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Lets reduce the complexity of that computer to a single gate, and see how fast it could switch at that power level and voltage swing.

.000001 watt from 10,000 volts implies a supply current of no more than 10^-10 amperes. extremely low, as you say.

Charging a 10 pF node through 10,000 volts (one logic signal transition) with that current (from I = C*(dv/dt)) would take about

1000 seconds. Reduce that total current so that a million or so gates could be involved in the computer, and that time per transition goes up by a factor of a million (if they all must share the same uA). In other words, all 1 million gates could change state once every 32 years.

And people think it takes a long time for Windows to boot up now!

Christ, you're clueless.

Graham

That's the perfect computer for this troll. It would take a few millennium for it to boot.

Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I\'ve got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida

Yes, I think we should nominate him for the "Sloman Award" with the "Allison Endorsement".

Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I\'ve got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida

"Eeyore" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com...

Well, at least he IS consistent in that...

Bob M.

I think you have have amperage and wattage confussed. probably from confusing ohm's law.

let's say we have a cuircut that uses 10 watts, we could use a power supply that outputs 10 volts at 1 amp (10 x 1 = 10); or 100 volts at .1 amp (100 x .1 = 10 watts); but, a power supply that output > Hi:

"Bob Myers" wrote in news:VQQvg.854 $ snipped-for-privacy@news.cpqcorp.net:

*trim*

He is at least posting in the correct group. It is sci.electronics.basics, not sci.electronics.advanced.headspinning

Puckdropper

Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it. To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

Thanks for the info. I know realize how disadvantageous this nearly-wattless design of a PC is.

No, his messages belong in news:sci.electronics.total.bs

Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I\'ve got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida

Who knows, maybe that Skybuck guy could keep busy trying to invent such a machine ...

Mark

It'd be much more resistant to electrostatic damage, but at one microwatt probably not very fast.

so low that thermal expansion changing its capacitance would cause problems.

Bye. Jasen

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