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The SUN's article is titled 'Scare bus' crabbing takes some talent. Apparently the pilot over corrected and the winds weren't that strong.

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Martin Riddle

I wondered about that... prior to touching down it didn't look all the squirrelly.

The only time I ever thought I was going to die on an airplane flight was _many_ years ago flying from Colorado Springs to Denver and got caught in an August thunderstorm in the Rockies... hail the size of softballs... and bouncing around as in the link above, but continuously for about 20 minutes :-(

When we landed in Denver we all applauded the pilot ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

Not as much as I'd like to be off it again.

Original here:

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Clifford Heath

In crosswind landings the rudder is the key "extra" control. Watch the rudder throughout the landing.

And with an aircraft like that (or a high aspect ratio modern glider) a key concern is ensuring the wing/engine doesn't contact the ground.

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Tom Gardner

I soon as I watched it, I thought "pilot induced oscillation". A number of posters on the YouTube video seem to agree with me.

Aircraft often look rather out of control when landing, because we imagine they're similar to land vehicles. But they're different - the control surfaces are still working.

Sylvia.

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Sylvia Else

The required amount of rudder is determined mostly by the crab angle. Looks to me like the pilot just needs some more crosswind training.

Sylvia.

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Sylvia Else

What these "pilots" they are doing? They are training for a show or what? plane is completely skewed when landing ... monkeys training session for acrobatics ! pfff Horrifying is the word !

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habib

It's supposed to be skewed, a.k.a. crabbed just before it's touches down. The intent is cancel the crab angle just before touch down, but it takes fine judgement.

With the big jets, Boeing seem happy for the mains wheels to touch down, and then for the crab angle to be removed before the nose wheel touches. Airbus seem to prefer the crab angle to be removed before the main wheels touch, which is surely more difficult to get right.

Sylvia

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Sylvia Else

It is a crosswind landing. There are two ways to counteract the sideways drift and ensure a plane's track is along the (extended) runway centreline.

Either you can crab, as they did, or you can put the upwind wing down and slip. The latter is not recommended in aircraft with long low wings - unless you are the Gimli glider, when it was the only option :)

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Tom Gardner

Oops! with cross wind conditions I understand, Apologies to flying crabs pilots. BTW I suppose the embedded computer is committed in this kind of "cabriole" ?

Habib

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habib

That company pilots also need additional basic flying training.

Check for example EK-131 to Moscow at Sep 10, when they managed to fly at 400 ft at 8 nm before the runway, searching for the ILS landing beam !!. Fortunately the noticed their mistake and did a go round.

It must have ben a shock for local residents seeing a plane with 80 m wing span at 120 m height. Normally the approaching planes would have been at 500 - 1000 m :-)

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upsidedown

I could imagine a perfect crabbed landing, critically damped in rotation. There are some very nice ones on Youtube. An A380 is a huge mass, and the nose wheel may be slipping, so a pilot would have to be perfect to avoid a little underdamping.

I guess a little oscillation is preferable to running off the runway.

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That pilot was too nervous and almost crashed them. Call Pranas:

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Here are *much* nicer A380 crosswind landings.

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Compare and contrast the movements of the rudder and fuselage between the main gear touching down and the nosewheel touching down, with those in the original video.

It is also amusing to compare the wing's front profile while flying with that after landing.

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Tom Gardner

Indeed !

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habib

Interestingly, the B52 (also Boeing) has steerable main landing gear. When landing crosswind, they steer the fuselage into the wind, and line up the wheels to the runway. After they touch down, the whole plane turns to line up the fuselage with the wheels. Landing photographs were classified for a long time.

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krw

Looked like a standard crosswind landing. I've seen a lot sportier ones than that.

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Phil Hobbs

One impressive things about those rough landings is how tough and springy the landing gear is.

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