Top posting

Nothing really wrong with doing that for emails where both parties are familiar with the context.

For many a good reason.

Even better is interspersed posting where each reply is posted underneath the relevant item.

I can see that.

You must be dealing with MBAs. They have limited intellelect.

Graham

NO!!!!!!!

The thing they cannot cope with is that when formatted the 'correct way' the message makes sense.

Even worse it serves to highlight any 'mistakes' they 'may' have made.

Even even worse they have to read through all their mistakes before they get to your explanation and clarification of the last mistake they sent.

E-mails in the corporate world are not for transmission of clear information. It takes lawyers and lots of words, paper and money to do that sort of thing.

E-mails in the corporate world are, at the most, a way of saying 'Hi there, thanks for networking with me, I'll network with you some more later'.

DNA

Oh, dear. Does Sandia Labs not have fullscreen mailreaders yet?

On Usenet "tradition" was established very early (pre-1975 in many cases) and is not optimal for today.

Please don't. You might be responding to me some day. :)

There are a lot of stupid people out there.

I can't imagine doing it any other way. As long as you leave or put the greater than signs to the left of their stuff it is easy to read.

If you are involving more than 2 people you can put the initials of the person at the top of the sentance opr paragraph.

Agreed! Outlook sucks!

If you try to interleave responses in an Outlook E-mail you get weird separation bars and strange behavior when you try any editing.

...Jim Thompson

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I love to cook with wine.      Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

Click Format, Click Text..... Sometimes you might have to Click HTML again and then back to Text.

DNA

I have dealt with the issue by adopting a mixture of both. I insert my quotes the normal way when I want to indicate which sentence I am replying to and I include the entire message at the bottom like in todays top-posting. I began doing that some time after the max. 14400 capable phone line here is not the only option (cable etc. is now everywhere), I must admit. top-bottom posting combines the advantages of the two approaches - provides the complete context for someone seeing one message only, and makes the reply comprehensible. It takes a negligible amount of bandwidth more if you are not on a very slow phone line. The worst about it is that archiving such mesages (if everybody has been doing the top-bottom posting) will take much more space, but disk space is not so scarce nowadays... I am replying in such detail because I am not quite sure myself about my adopted method, I'd be curious to get some thoughs on that.

Dimiter

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Chris Carlen wrote:

I'm not seeing that function in Eudora.

...Jim Thompson

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|  Phoenix, Arizona            Voice:(480)460-2350  |             |
|  E-mail Address at Website     Fax:(480)460-2142  |  Brass Rat  |
|       http://www.analog-innovations.com           |    1962     |
             
I love to cook with wine.      Sometimes I even put it in the food.

It's best practice.

So much better is available ! I use Netscape 4.8 for heaven's sake since it's hard to beat. Why change ? I've seen / tried others and not been much impressed.

Graham

Genome wrote

That already tells me enought to know I shouldn't use it !

Graham

I use Eudora Pro v3.0.5. How's that for aged software ?;-)

...Jim Thompson

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|  Analog Innovations, Inc.                         |     et      |
|  Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC\'s and Discrete Systems  |    manus    |
|  Phoenix, Arizona            Voice:(480)460-2350  |             |
|  E-mail Address at Website     Fax:(480)460-2142  |  Brass Rat  |
|       http://www.analog-innovations.com           |    1962     |
             
I love to cook with wine.      Sometimes I even put it in the food.

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I like it. I, too, alternate between top, bottom, and interleaved posting as the situation seems to require.

I am not going to cater for people who are still running 1978 UNIX on 1975 DECwriters instead of computers with full-screen threaded news reading. (Or who pretend they are.) The fact is, some replies are best interleaved; I view bottom posting (which I'm doing right now) as a special case of interleaving; but if the reply is short and snappy and doesn't require much context, why not give it right at the top?

The one argument I won't buy is, "It's Tradition." This is high technology, folks, not Ye Olde Curiosity Shoppe! We should always be ready to adapt our techniques to the changing situation.

I find it funny that, at age 48, I have to spend so much time telling people

20 years younger than me to move with the times. Among computerniks there is tremendous nostalgia for 1975-1985, the period when geeks were viewed as superhuman.

impressed.

Hard to comment since I've only ever heard of it by repute.

I recall using Mosaic when I first trawled the net and getting excited over the beta releases of Netscape 2 ! Does anyone recall when that was ? I'm thinking around

1995-6.

Graham

On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 17:05:49 -0700, Chris Carlen Gave us:

Fuck you, you Usenet RETARD!

Thanks for the reply, I hoped I was not alone on that :-).

Same here, this is about communication, not about practicing religion. Nothing against those who practice anything as long as they don't demand that I join, that is.

Well I would expect a youth like yoursef to be progressive (I am two years older but I guess I don't live up to the expectation of being a traditionalist, either...). :-) :-)

Cheers,

Dimiter

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mc wrote:

Roy L. Fuchs, Professional Pinhead

Just ignore them and do the right thing. Remember to trim their garbage and intersperse your replies so they can see what you are doing.

Ian

I email exactly like I reply everywhere else. If my comments are general or the parent message has a uniform subject, there's no point in selecting specific text nor highlighting it by replying underneath.

(For that matter, I could top post here, but since you have convienient short paragraphs and I'm going to get kind of long, I'm putting it down here.)

If my response is detailed and replying to specific statements, I always reply interleaved. I do not ever bottom post. You may say I am bottom posting right now, and that is true in a manner of speaking, but I see this as interleaved, with the only subtle difference being I have no further quoted text to reply to below.

Bottom posting is the Scum of the Earth. One or two lines below several _pages_ of quoted text, that isn't even /trimmed/, is the lowest an Human Being can sink to. If you don't have the courtesy to trim a specific couple sentences or paragraph when bottom posting, don't reply at all!

Tim

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I'm one of the old-timers at age 57, but I use tradition (and old tools) only when there is a clear benefit. It is wise to be open to new ideas. I am top posting here to show how it can be appropriate. In this case, I can state my premise that it can be OK, illustrated by the example as follows: