Took Three daughters to the shooting range - CCW question

krw wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

So what? that just means they become more clever at passing off or otherwise disposing of the gun before they're caught. In the US,it's a FEDERAL crime for any felon to have possession of a firearm or a SINGLE round of ammo,5 year penalty for each count,in a FEDERAL prison; it doesn't stop them from doing it,though.

and gang members,and other criminals. I note Beatle George Harrison was stabbed miltiple times in his own home,nearly killing him,by a burglar.

even the QUEEN has had a home invader.

My brother-in-law was uniformed as US Air Force... except he really was CIA. He was armed at all times. He breezed thru checkpoints without so much as a glance. He said, "They always know I'll be coming through".

He died about five years ago, supposedly of "natural causes", but we've never been able to obtain a death certificate, and were not told of his death for almost a year after the fact :-(

We do know that he was in Turkey a lot of the time. ...Jim Thompson

Lucky the burglar didn't have a gun eh?

But I have three times the chance of surviving. ;-) Seriously, if I were to carry, it would be a small revolver. A 2" Titanium/Scandium .38, most likely. My 6" S&W 686 wouldn't be very easy to conceal. ;-)

Jim Thompson wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Yeah,but armed Agriculture,Food and Drug,IRS,and the like?? they are NOT "LEO".

How did the family clean up his affairs without a death certificate?

You have it backwards, as always. BTW, burglars generally don't have guns but know that homeowners might, so tend to shy away from occupied homes. That is a *good* thing.

The immediate family isn't talking, and the state is sand-bagging us, requiring "proof" that my wife was his sister. So we haven't pursued it any further... never much liked the guy any way... bit of a horse's ass... maybe that's why he's dead ;-) ...Jim Thompson

krw wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

that's the gist of it; uncaring people,who don't care if someone else has a encounter with criminals,in the belief that it somehow makes THEM safer.It doesn't. To not fight crime allows crime to expand.Criminals become braver,go farther and farther in their crimes.

actually,IIRC,knife attacks are more often fatal. Lots of people survive gunshot wounds,even multiple gun shots,and the gunshots draw UNWANTED ATTENTION,something criminals like to avoid.

I thought burglars avoided burgling when people are at home? That what you anti's always claim.(but it aint so)

If a "burglar" has a gun (or other weapon),they aren't burglars,but armed robbers. They bring weapons to DOMINATE their victims,to lessen the chances that a victim will try to fight back,to make THEM *safer*. that's the "In your face" violent crime,the worst sort.

"Progressives" think that the criminal will always have the advantage. but,their thinking is always irrational.

I've read lots of examples of people using their guns to successfully defend against home invasions and burglars,even after being shot themselves. Old folks,particularly.

Criminals fear armed citizens.They prefer unarmed victims. that is what prison surveys have found.

Criminals are PRO-guncontrol.

Out here in the colonies (North Carolina anyway) we threw off the yoke of tyranny with the help of a Frenchman named Lafayette many years ago. Granted, freedom requires continual maintenance and we have fallen behind in many areas.

I understand that the 2009 preliminary statistics indicate that gun, ammo and large magazine sales rose sharply this year while the murder rates fell sharply.

A favorite saying of mine is "God created man but Sam Colt made them equal".

It has been an interesting thread but I find the first post a bit hard to believe. 300 rounds through one handgun in one afternoon is a bit much. Perhaps you have an oven mitt with hole for a trigger finger?

On the other hand, burning a brick of 22 Long rifles makes for a fun afternoon.

John Ferrell W8CCW

In Oregon, I've asked one of the policemen at Clackamas County Sherrif's about what happens if I'm carrying a handgun inside the car when I'm pulled over for some traffic reason. "Should I tell them right away?" I asked. He said, "Not unless the officer asks you, specifically. Otherwise, I'd just avoid bringing it up."

I've had no problem bringing in a handgun case into the Sherrif's office with an unloaded handgun inside and cartridges in clips within the same case, for a quick question I had regarding their firing range. (They restrict what may be fired there.) They didn't flick an eye when I opened the case to ask. Pretty routine, I guess. They gave me an answer and I walked out, getting a cup of their coffee and some pastries on the way.

Quite a contrast against British circumstances discussed in a link that was posted to this group, earlier:

There's a new update on it:

Jon

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I have found the post to be highly informative. To clarify, I took each girl to the range separately on three different days. Nobody's trigger finger was fatigued, but my wallet was starting to get a little fatigued, but well worth it.

You did well! They are at least gun aware and are prepared to make rational decisions in the future based on experience rather than social pressures.

John Ferrell W8CCW

A brick is 500 or 550. Not a problem, on top of a hundred or so .38s and .357s. ;-) A brick is going for about $15 (up from $8 or so) so it's a pretty cheap afternoon, at that.

A few years ago, a friend brought a Ruger 1022 with a 250 round magazine to the range. He'd made a cam with a crank that fit into the trigger guard. It didn't take long to go through a half a brick. ;-)

Hear! Hear!

That seems to be a big question. Before talking to you, he likely already knows that you have a CCW. He should assume that you're carrying, so as long as you don't do anything stupid that should work. I've seen other recommend that you offer the location of the weapon so he doesn't get jumpy.

Their firing range? What a nice Sherriff's office you have there! Many would shoot you for touching their Dunkin' Donuts. ;-)

What do you expect? Shepards shear sheep.

Just amazing. ...and he gets a suspended sentence.

Just show what a bunch of s*it heads we have for police/CP ( crown prosecution) and Judges. If there was any justice, he should have been given an absolute discharge and a pat on the back for being a good upright citizen... 'Absolute discharge' is given for 'technical guilt' but morally/socially innocent, if you get my drift... A bit like the judge saying ' what a total waste of time bringing this prosection'...... but , of course, he/she is not allowed to say that .

Which proves the point. You are a nation of sheep just waiting to be shorn.

If there was any justice he never would have been charged with so much as jaywalking.

Official "jury nullification".

Why not? Slap the prosecutor silly, too. He should serve the sentence for malfeasance.

The Ruger 1022... it has to be one of the most popular guns of all time! I have more fun shooting mine than any of the other guns. I have the scope on mine mounted high enough that the iron sights are usable underneath.

I don't often fire it but my number one gun is the .30 caliber M1 that was manufactured by IBM. Truly a "Business Machine for War".

The sport models of the AK-47 are a lot of fun too. Not as hard to handle and clean as most bigger guns yet plenty of punch. It was more fun when we were paying a nick le a round for ammo though!

The SKS is fun to shoot and used to be pretty cheap. I have not fired mine it several years. Just too much trouble to clean...

John Ferrell W8CCW

My S&W 617 is a lot of fun to shoot, too. I've been thinking about buying a 1022, but don't really have anywhere to shoot it now. I was also thinking about an AR-15 bored out for .22LR. They're a tad expensive, but it would freak the gun grabbers. ;-)

I'd *love* to have one of those. I saw the range (really a hole in the wall) where they were test fired. It's since been buried under another building. They were supposed to have saved it as a historic site, but don't know how that worked out.

Tell me about it. The stuff has gone out of sight, when you can get it.