The Die Off Has Begun

Deadly heatwaves do kill people, but they fall a long way short of species extinction, and probably couldn't even generate a population crash.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

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So what. Even the 70,000 deaths from the 2003 European heatwave aren't impr essive against the European population of 500 million, and in practice thes e deaths were concentrated amongst the elderly and physically infirm.

When you start killing off people of breeding age, you may be able to talk about the beginning of a die off, but so far you are being prematurely alar mist - peddling an apocalyptic fairytale, with even less evidential support that even Jamie thinks he has mustered.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney (but in Seoul at the moment).

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k about the beginning of a die off, but so far you are being prematurely al armist - peddling an apocalyptic fairytale, with even less evidential suppo rt that even Jamie thinks he has mustered.

What do you think these heat waves are beamed down from the heavens in isol ation? LOL-and as for breeding, Europe has been self-selecting itself away from the living with a reproduction rate significantly less than required t o maintain its existence. The Muslims have been making up the difference ho wever. Europe will be radically different from what it was by mid-century.

Nonsense. "75 percent of people could face deadly heatwaves" isn't even certain, much less species extinction.

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It's dead certain, AND that scientifically derived forecast is based upon a global CO2 fixed in time at 400ppm. Since that is unrealistic, the forecas t is unrealistic, the heat waves will be exponentially worse in magnitude a nd duration. The human race will die off alright, no doubt about it. Global warming is like terminal cancer, by the time you notice and pay attention to the symptoms, it's too late to do anything about it.

And Americans can be counted on to say "Well I won't have to worry about that, then!" and have a bunch of children all the same.

Social media has made kids the hottest fashion accessory, sort of like a high-end Tesla two people can manufacture on their own to impress their friends.

Nonsense. People in Alaska and Siberia and Tierra del Fuego are all going to die too? All of them?

How about San Francisco? Are we doomed too? It's 65F right now, 10AM in a heat wave. We might even go to lunch in short sleeves.

Sorry to tell you, but having children was popular even before Facebook was invented. Did your mother make a mistake creating you?

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 

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die... at least not from the heat.

Yes >:-} ...Jim Thompson

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upon a global CO2 fixed in time at 400ppm. Since that is unrealistic, the f orecast is unrealistic, the heat waves will be exponentially worse in magni tude and duration. The human race will die off alright, no doubt about it. Global warming is like terminal cancer, by the time you notice and pay atte ntion to the symptoms, it's too late to do anything about it.

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In the thirty years I lived there, I was always surprised when some repor ter called such a nice day "unprecedented", then unsurprised when it was fo und that the reporter was a newbie.

Sky Harbor shut down several times while I was there and nobody who'd liv ed there any length of time was surprised.

All the Little Chickens should get out of their coastal enclaves and live in some of the places they're screaming about becoming uninhabitable. The locals know better.

Mark L. Fergerson

Newbie's are easy to spot... just listen for how they pronounce "Tempe" ;-)

Yep. Now-a-days more and more jet engines include water injection... so the big guys aren't affected... just the little commuter types with old equipment.

Send 'em on down, with the proviso that they have to go for a long walk with me around 2-3 in the afternoon >:-} ...Jim Thompson

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Heat waves are extreme weather events, and do become more frequent as globa l warming proceeds, but they are - in fact - isolated and tolerably improba ble.

he living with a reproduction rate significantly less than required to main tain its existence. The Muslims have been making up the difference however. Europe will be radically different from what it was by mid-century.

You've been reading the same kind of rubbish as Cursitor Doom and John Lark in. The Muslim population of Europe is a small minority, and it would take a couple of centuries of energetic breeding to make them a substantial majo rity, by which time they will be indistiguishable from the rest of the popu lation. I posted the numbers here a few years ago, in response to roughly t he same moronic claim.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney (but in Seoul at the moment)

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You haven't thought about the part of population for whom heat waves can be deadly - heat waves do kill elderly and infirm people who might have survi ved a year or so longer if not exposed to that particular stress - but they don't do much to the population as a whole.

ll be exponentially worse in magnitude and duration. The human race will di e off alright, no doubt about it. Global warming is like terminal cancer, b y the time you notice and pay attention to the symptoms, it's too late to d o anything about it.

The tropics may become an even less attractive place to live (even though w e evolved there) but large chunks of the planet will remain perfectly habit able.

What's facing extinction are your critical faculties.

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rkin. The Muslim population of Europe is a small minority, and it would tak e a couple of centuries of energetic breeding to make them a substantial ma jority, by which time they will be indistiguishable from the rest of the po pulation. I posted the numbers here a few years ago, in response to roughly the same moronic claim.

It's called sub-replacement fertility, and civilizations have been dealing with it since antiquity. You can't argue against the basic facts of it. Eth nic Europeans are on the decline. The Muslims will not remain a small minor ity with replacement rates averaging 4-8x those of the ethnic Euros.