Tesla v jet

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If a driver did this, I guess the driver and his insurance would be liable. But this was doing the driverless auto-summons thing, so I assume Tesla is liable.

Automation can transfer liabilities.

After it hit the plane, you might expect it to stop.

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John Larkin
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John Larkin wrote: ===============

** No way !!

The dumb jerk with the smart phone ( plus app) in their hands is. And if not, the owner of the car that let them do it.

** No very likely.

..... Phil

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Phil Allison

Tesla forgot to code the "don't hit a jet airplane" subroutine.

And the "stop after you hit something" one.

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jlarkin

Does it say in the fine print "Only to be used in parking lots"?

That don't look like a parking lot to me.

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bitrex

My guess is it thinks it's in a parking lot and is mostly "looking" close to the ground, and is deeply confused by how relatively high a small aircraft sits on those lil legs. "path looks clear to me"

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bitrex

Don't Teslas try to sneak under semis that are across the highway?

They need a Limbo option.

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jlarkin

It's remarkable it works as well as it does much of the time. That guy who was in the unfortunate crash with the semi that I recall got very used to the autopilot being very good much of the time and came to trust it like a friend. It wasn't his friend.

OTOH I saw a trash barrel roll out in front of a Model X a few cars ahead of me on the highway the other day and it nimbly dodged around it, faster than a human (or a human in the 5th decade of life like me at least my video game playing days are mostly over, too) could manage.

My Volt is pretty bare-bones with respect to driver-assistance options aside from a backup camera it's mirrors and my eyes.

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bitrex

We were driving uphill on Swiss Street and a blue wheelie recycling bin was screaming down the middle headed right for us. At the last second, it swerved and hit a parked car.

The slope there is about 20% so it was moving.

Driver assist makes more sense than autopilot to me, especially in cities.

On the highway, I'd like a display of everything around me, with projected collision hazards highlighted. My Audi has rear blind spots and no cameras.

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jlarkin

When people said "AI" they used to mean HAL, but now a thing with less intelligence than an insect is called AI.

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Tom Del Rosso

John Larkin wrote: ===================

** FFS it f****ng did.

Wot a damn stupid troll. Oh, it's a JL post so there is no other kind.

..... Phil

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Phil Allison

Not only that but the tail is at such an angle ~45 degrees that the main reflection back to the sensors will mislead both lidar and radar into thinking that the obstruction is further away than it really is.

The image processing sanity check clearly didn't work. Ooops!

We know that Telsas have a thing about featureless white trucks too.

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Martin Brown

Tesla suffers from a total reliance on vision processing instead of combining it with LIDAR.

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problem is nobody, apparently, collected data on what aircraft look like.

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Flyguy

I sentence you to being Phil Allison for the rest of your life.

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jlarkin

None of that matters. Any time the car is being moved, a person is supposed to supervise it. Summon is not intended to work without someone watching to stop it with the remote or phone app. Clearly this person is rather trusting and expected the car to drive itself autonomously... which they don't. No one at Tesla says they do operate autonomously. Just people who wish to complain that the car doesn't do what they say it doesn't do. Larkin is the number one complainer. I guess he isn't very good at listening to what he's told.

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Ricky

Larkin envies Phil Allison in that regard.

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Ricky

Phil got off lightly. He could have been sentenced to being John Larkin, though John Larkin wouldn't have seen that as a punishment. Being sentenced to being John Doe, Cursitor Doom or Flyguy - probably the same person or, perhaps the same troll program, operating with different nyms, would have been marginally worse, if marginally less intellectually demanding.

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Anthony William Sloman

It will be fun to "ha ha!" the Tesla owners around here once Musk unlocks Trump's account 2 minutes after acquiring Twitter. It would be more satisfying to punch them, but...

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bitrex

On the meths today, I see.

Why would I give a shit about Trmp, Musk and Twitter?

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Ricky

John Larkin is a physical as well as an intellectual dwarf, so his punches would have the same kind of impact as his insults.

Elon Musk may not be as clever as he thinks he is (though being the richest man in the world does suggest some ingenuity) but he's probably clever enough not to unlock Donald Trump's Twitter account even if he could. It's not as if Donald Trump has enough ready money to offer him an attractive bribe.

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Anthony William Sloman

Just going on how much the "lamestream media" says it's very unlikely to happen, and how much Donald Trump has said himself he's not interested, I'm guessing the probability it will happen in short order to be almost a certainty but we'll see...

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bitrex

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