Brand new Tesla battery complex catches FIRE!

They can be pretty bad, huh?

Was that a BRAND NEW coal seam, dude?

Since we haven't got as clue what caused the fire - for all Sewage Sweeper knows it might have been struck by lightning - the fuss about "brand new" is just Sewage Sweeper airing his deluded idea that lithium ion batteries can proceed from normal operation to thermal runaway at any moment,

The process by which a battery can move from normal, operation to increasing self-discharge (and sell-heating) to a state when the self-heating can get the core temperature up to 120C where thermal; run-away can set in does take time, and can be monitored by keeping track of the battery core temperature versus it's surface temperature.

Any decent battery monitoring system can do that continuously. If the battery shows early signs of distress, you can make is safe by completely discharging it - limiting the discharge rate to one that won't overheat the cells to the region where thermal runaway is likely.

It's a more complicated idea than can be handled by the senile remnants of the brain which Sewage Sweeper still has left, and ignoring it lets him post his usual nonsense sound bite.

You didn't read that in any of the links you provided. You seem to confuse "brand new" with "first built". Go back and read/listen to them again.

Not sure how that matters anyway, but whatever.

Hey Bozo, we can pretty much say it WAS NOT the result of a "lightning strike."

LOL! Are you saying that they DID NOT have said monitoring? I truly THINK NOT!

So, are you saying that they DID NOT have a "decent battery monitoring system"? If so, how could OZ be so DERELICT in allowing such an unsafe installation?

Call Lyin' Biden or yourself "senile", but ALL that I did was to REPORT the news, nothing more and nothing less. For you to make these claims shows YOUR senility.

Bozo's Sewage Sweeper

Sounds like "brand new" to me - are you claiming that Tesla sold them USED power banks?

I'm trying to explain the English language. They are saying this is the first unit built in that country. I think that was some years ago. There had been a large power outage which shut everything in that part of Australia for a couple of days. So they bought the batter backup which not only provides power during outages, it helps prevent outages and makes money by electrical arbitrage.

Bill probably can point you to some links about it if you are too lazy to look it up yourself.

Sewage Sweeper doesn't want it to have have been caused by a lightning strike, so he's happy to claim that it wasn't. More objective information may exist but he won't bother looking for it;

If it had monitoring, as I've sure it did, it wouldn't have blown up because it went into thermal runaway. My hypothesis us that some external event - a lightning strike, a truck hitting it or the like - caused the problem. Nobody dug into that because a battery fire makes people anxious in a way that sells newspapers.

It was in Queensland - Australia's deep north - but it certainly would have had a decent monitoring system so presumably the fire get started by something other than therrmal runaway. The reports didn't actually say anything about the cause of the fire.

Your "report" starts with "This complex uses the SAFEST lithium chemistry: LFP: " which does imply that you blame the fire on the battery chemistry and are ignoring any other possible ignition source. You are too far gone in senility to appreciate what you were implying.

-- Bill Sloman, Sydney

Bozo makes a FALSE CLAIM that it was caused by lightning w/o ANY PROOF - typical of the Bozo.

You aren't sure of your last BOWEL MOVEMENT, let alone what this facility was equipped with, Bozo. You just FLAT OUT GUESS, and your guesses are LOUSY!!! You have ZERO BASIS for your "hypothesis" - read GUESS. I am SURE that they are "digging into that" because of the implications.

Hey Bozo, your English SUCKS! "The reports didn't actually say anything about the cause of the fire" but you have NO PROBLEM guessing.

What are you saying, Bozo, that LFP IS NOT the safest lithium chemistry? I said exactly ZERO about the ignition source, if you had bothered to actually READ what I wrote.

So says the SENILE BOZO.

Bozo's Sewage Sweeper

BTW, at least you spelled "Sydney" correctly this time, all though you made other mistakes.

I didn't say it was. I said it might have been. This is Sewage Sweeper lying, as he does repeatedly.

I didn't do any guessing. I just pointed out that there were alternative explanations for the fire beyond the one you were touting as your preferred explanation (even though there was no evidence to support your preference.

But you did imply that a "safer" battery wouldn't have caught fire.

if Sewage Sweeper had bothered to read the thread before he posted his latest stream of pointless abuse he'd have co,me across this report about an earlier fire in a similar installation

""The origin of the fire was MP-1 and the most likely root cause ofthe fire was a leak within the liquid cooling system of MP-1causing arcing in the power electronics of the Megapack's battermodules. This resulted in heating of the battery module'slithium-ion cells that led to a propagating thermal runaway event and the fire."

Not exactly a lightning strike, but a fault that created a similar sort of local heating

Translation: "I am guessing"

Translation: "I don't have even a STUPID answer"

If YOU had bothered to read the subject report you would have learned that the first thing they do is to isolate the battery packs on fire and nearby, thereby eliminating your ridiculous idea of draining the energy in the battery.

"Not exactly"? What you meant to say "In no F****NG WAY was it a lightning strike!"

Bozo's Sewage Sweeper (And, boy, have I been BUSY!)

You drain the energy out of the battery before self-discharge gets it warm enough that there's an appreciable risk of thermal runaway.

Your mindless rhetoric is all predicated on the idea that a lithium ion battery can go into thermal runaway without going through the slow process of developing an increasing level of self-discharge, which is easy enough to detect if you have an kind of proper battery monitoring.

Your senile brain can't cope with that kind of complexity, and you much prefer spouting mindless nonsense about unpredictable catastrophic failure.

First producing the sewage, then spreading it about.