Strategies for Buying Test Equipment off Ebay

Oct 26, 2007 95 Replies

This is called "sniping", and people have been doing it for years. Two or three people will be bidding against each other, and each tries to be the last one in with the winning bid.

The last thing I bid on, I was the only bidder. ;-)

Cheers! Rich

D from BC wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Ebay is a crapshoot. Too many people get auction fever.

(heck,you probably have better odds playing blackjack in Vegas)

Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net

Jim Thompson wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

one thing to worry about is whether the seller packs the item adequately. Carriers will not cover poorly packed items. Insurance may be useless if the item is rare and highly desired.

One hint is to use plastic bags of plastic peanuts packed around the item,instead of loose peanuts;with loose P-nuts,the item just migrates to the bottom of the box and gets the full shock anytime the box is dropped. With bags of P-nuts,the item stays protected as originally packed. And you need a box with at least 4 inches of space around the item,on EVERY side;I've seen many an instrument with smashed knobs,bent shafts because the packer put it in a too-small box.

(personal experience from Tektronix shiping and receiving!)

Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net

Jim Thompson wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

you'll find that often the bids only start rising in the last half-hour.

IIRC,Ebay also has an anti-snipe provision.

Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net

A very good read.. Its new stuff to me.. Ebay seemed so simple at first..but surprise! The Art of Ebay :)

Thanks.

D from BC

DJ Delorie wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@delorie.com:

The 560 series was obsolete at least 15 years ago.(according to TEK)

Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net

John Larkin wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

I think it's first debut was around 40 yrs ago. AFAIK,the 560s came out around 1960,the early 60's. TEKs definition of "obsolete" was 9 yrs after the last TEK catalog appearance. (it's much shorter now.) I think the 560s were still being sold in the early 70's.

Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net

I've had very good luck buying test gear on ebay. Best score: brand new TDS5034B with deep memory option for $4600 from seller NewarkInOne. ALWAYS snipe. The main problems I've had were with inadequate packaging for shipment. Offer to pay more, including overnight or 2-day shipping: packages are handled more gently and fewer times. Be prepared to do some contact cleaning on older gear. Output stages on signal and pulse generators are sometimes burned out. Demand a partial refund from the seller....often successful. However, such problems are usually easy to troubleshoot and to repair. Paul Mathews

Why the *b*y?? Is *b*y scanning Usenet for some reason?

Yes...On occasion, I've noticed some weird shipping and handling charges. $40.00 UPS and $99.00 USPS ??? For items of same size and weight to Canada.

I did get lucky on Epray and got a brand new analog scope 100MHz (chinese)

2 ch, still in production, for ~$500.00CAD. 2 100Mhz probes included. I was the only bidder??? What a fluke! :) I received an email from the manufactures distributor with a quote of $1380.00. Ha!

I've only used the scope for a few hours and no POOF yet :)

It's still got that new electronics smell :P

D from BC

100 percent of all intelligent eBay bidders snipe.

By definition.

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Many thanks, Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073 Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552 rss: http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu.xml email: don@tinaja.com Please visit my GURU\'s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com

There's a letter to the seller....

Dear seller... Please surround the item on all sides with individual bags of peanuts. Thank You :)

D from BC

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A used test equipment site has this listed as $9600.00!

8M mem depth.

I checked prices before posting the link..hee hee :)

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D from BC

If seller did not contractually agree in writing to this ahead of time, they are under NO OBLIGATION WHATSOEVER to do so.

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Many thanks, Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073 Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552 rss: http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu.xml email: don@tinaja.com Please visit my GURU\'s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com

Published prices of used test equipment sites are a total fantasy.

They are usually the MAXIMUM they are willing to accept.

Many thanks, Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073 Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552 rss: http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu.xml email: don@tinaja.com Please visit my GURU\'s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com

Ok...How about a distributor of new equipment

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TDS5034B

10kpt Price: $9635.12
  • 3914.26 for 16M of memory!!! Holy @#@#!!
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Those used test equipment resellers are sharky :( D from BC

I usually bid 30 seconds before closing. It seems to work.

John

Well, they were practically obsolete when they were first introduced. I never like the 560 series. They were a stripped-down version of the superb 540-series scopes: they were small, heavy, slow, and ran very hot. The crt's were nowhere as good as the 540 tubes, fuzzy focus and strange unblanking behavior.

John

Look for postings that say "AS-IS" or "FOR PARTS ONLY." Many times, the seller puts these expressions in to cover his/her ass. This is true for many of the large surplus junk e-stores.

Usually, they just have so much stuff, they don't even have time to plug it in. Many people are totally against buying like this, but I have gotten some VERY good deals on units that work fine. Sometimes, I am the only bidder and the price I pay is less than the shipping costs.

But be aware, you should pay no more that 20% of the cost of a "good" unit, with a warranty. That way, if it truly is junk, you haven't lost much.

if you bed high enought (remember the more you can bet...) the robot will not be able to outbid you... if you bet the actual bed plus $1, you will be outbed !

I saw that the final price for an object is almost always twice the price it was half an hour before the end of the auction...

Jean-Yves.

Not related to strategy, but:

1) If you are buying, the seller might opt out and refuse to send the unit as well as refuse to respond; e-bay does not care. 2) If you are a seller, the winner might decide you are charging too much, giving lies like the unit weighs one-tenth of actual and the shipping is one fifth of actual (at any weight) - and so refuse to pay anything; again e-bay does not care. 3) If the advertized items are obviously and provably stolen, e-bay does not care. 4) It is a fact that all e-bay cares about is money. "Contract"? There is none when e-bay is involved.

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