Robert Baer and his Redmond jones (was: telephone black box)

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Well, i have 4 partitions encompasing 3 OSes and data. Has the stupidity of a LILO partition been fixed?

Robert Baer wrote:

LiLo goes in the MBR of hda--same as any other boot manager. You make it sound like you are trying to do something else. ...and if you already have a boot manager, you don't need another.

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LILO has been pretty well displaced by GRUB, which sits in the MBR or on any partition you like.

If you hardware is up to it you will really like a modern Linux on a multi core 64-bit machine, i sure do. Virtualizes real nice.

JosephKK wrote:

If it was on *any* partition, why wouldn't the system look at the boot sector of hda and ignore the boot manager? ...or is there a step you left out?

Heh. Your comment is directed at a guy whose primary OS is Windows 98.

Well, he *is* about due for some new hardware. 8-) I think Baer may be even cheaper than I am.

I use XOSL (XOSL2) and point at my OS partitions.

Vista Ultimate Eternity Edition

Windows 7 Public Beta

OpenSuse 11.1 X64

Other as yet unfilled Linux partitions

On the PS3, I use Petitboot, and it points at a USB drive, the DVD drive, and five hard drive partitions, with the USB and optical being on the fly boot menu reads.

I have:

Gentoo portage

Yellow Dog 6

OpenSuse 11.1

Ubuntu Jaunty Jackelope

Grid on USB drive

I wish I could get Knopper to do a PPC Cell PS3 Knoppix release.

That depends primarily on the boot manager in question. Old system Commander would search for new bootable partitions, many others do not. Neither LILO nor GRUB does search.

I have an old laptop (500 MHz) that came with MSWin98. Back then i added a linux partition to it (RH 7.3). Also note that he has 3 OS's on his machine. Just the same, a hardware (to current) update would be unlikely to hurt him. *86 virtualization is getting pretty good now.

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Well, not quite cheap; let us say use of limited funds leads to inexpensive results. After saving for many months, i finally got a new computer which is leading to problems. Newer hardware seems to have poor support or no support for Win98SE. And in this case, it does not help that the MB has on-board video which is not really disabled, but bypasses in the BIOS by assiging IRQ

11 to the daughterboard (GeForce 8400GS). Seems all NVIDIA drivers fail to find the chip; my guess it finds whatever is emulated on the MB and then quits. Old DOS AMIDIAG does indicate that VESA mode 103 (600x800 256 colors) is useable (liiks nice in their demo). But the universal VESA driver only gives 640x480 16 colors - no matter how one lies concerning which VBE Miniport verson to use. And *no* Win98SE sound driver (RealTek). Gurr!

Robert Baer wrote:

Daddy used to say Mama could squeeze the buffalo off a nickel. I think I got that gene. The "conspicuous consumption" thing just boggles my mind. What's that they say? "People spending money they don't have to buy things they don't need to impress people they don't like."

Hot damn! I thought you simply inherited a video card.

8-( Now I see what the gnashing of teeth has been about.

Lets see: 137GB limit on drives. Did you find 98-compatible SATA drivers--or go another route?

That doesn't surprise me nor should it surprise anyone who doesn't have have a jones for staying current with M$'s most-hyped offering. Even when it exists, NVIDIA "support" is pretty sucky under *anything* except M$'s longest-currently-supported OS.

Shame on you for not reading the labels / spec sheets and making sure the hardware you were paying for had support for your prefered OS. (It would be nice if Win9x had an Approved Hardware List like Linux & XP do.)

Joseph's *virtualization* suggestion is sounding REALLY apt.

(Free) VirtualBox keeps getting glowing reviews in the groups. David Brown about busts a gut trying to rave about it enough.

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Have you booted to a Linux CD cleanly? That would mean that distro/version has a device driver for everything. At that point, using *that* OS as the _host_ for a Virtual Machine and running 98 as a _guest_ would pass off all the hardware interaction to the known-to-be-better-supported OS.

all SATA controllers support atleast one drive in ATA compatibility mode. W98 (DOS7) will run OK with bios hard drive support only.

See if drivers are availible for Windows ME for your board.

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Good idea, will give that a try. BTW, i got the VBE Miniport SVGA to work so now i have 256 colors - a lot better than 16 colors. Maybe i did not try that variant or did something wrong in the implimentation, previously.