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Well i tried one of those recordings on

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and the marketeers that constantly call _continued_ to call; i "gave it a try for at least 2 weeks. What really pissed me off was that one of them came up with a "UUU" "no number" ID and so i (finally) used *57, got the message that the call was traced; after trapping 3 of them i called the so-called call annoyance bureau and they had *NO* record, meaning the message was a blatant lie. The PUC said that *57 was not for tracing marketeers and that i should not have used it, and that they would not press the issue to Qwest (my "provider"). Say what? How the hell else can i catch these bastards? Pissant bureaucrats!

** It would appear that a TOTAL disconnect of my phone _might_ stop these calls..
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Robert Baer
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Companies with trunk lines, and people who pay for certain special VOIP services can present any fake phone number they want.

Some outfit started that auto warranty extension scam and eventually they actually got busted for it by the FTC with the help of many state attorneys general.

The sheer volume of the calls caught up to them.

The reason it continues is that they had set it up like MLM, with lots of subordinate outfits making large numbers of calls.

They lie and say that they were referred by your cars manufacturer. They also lie about who they are and where they are.

Another skanky and abusive telemarketer that I tracked down was actually a subsidiary of a small regional telephone company which probably gave them tremendous ability to present bogus caller ID information.

Here's stuff on two of the biggest phone scams out there.

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Greegor

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You're doing it wrong. You're assuming Government will help you and getting pissed off when you should be having fun with them.

Answer the call, listen to the pitch, answer all the questions as if you want to buy what they're selling right up until you get to where they want your credit card number or mailing address then say "just a minute, I have to go to the bathroom; I'll be right back", then lay the phone down and listen for the BEEP BEEP BEEP letting you know they've disconnected, then hang up.

When they call back, apologize for the unreliable phone connection and repeat the above procedure, with variations like interrupting the caller to discuss your grandson's first tooth, your hernia operation/ kidney stone/colostomy bag, how the Liberals/Conservatives/Communists/ Christians/Muslims/Atheists are ruining the country, or whatever amuses you. Eventually they'll decide they're not going to be able to sell you anything and cross your number off their list.

It may take a while, and the bastards may resell your number to somebody else, but keep at it. AFAIK it's the only sure way to get rid of them without going completely off-grid.

Mark L. Fergerson

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Or ask them how hard it is to set up a phone scam like theirs, since you're out of work. :)

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Michael A. Terrell

On a sunny day (Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:15:06 -0800) it happened Robert Baer wrote in :

Just pick up the phoe with: 'Department of Homeland Security'.

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Jan Panteltje

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I ended up with having to give up my number and was issued with a new one that it permanently withheld and registered with TPS.

Even that didn't stop all the unwanted calls. Apparently they use an incrementing count dialer to find the hidden numbers. So if you answer the phone they log the fact and record it.

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Baron

Michael A. Terrell Inscribed thus:

Nice ! I hadn't thought of that one... ;-)

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Baron

After the holidays I plan to buy...

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And make some additional modifications. ...Jim Thompson

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Howard Eisenhauer
  • IMPOSSIBLE; they hang up immediately online pick-up.

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Robert Baer

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  • IMPOSSIBLE; they hang up immediately on line pick-up.
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Robert Baer

  • IMPOSSIBLE; they hang up immediately on line pick-up.
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Robert Baer

Been there, done that; does NO good.

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Robert Baer

..well, they lie in saying no extra monthly charges,as caller ID service is an extra monthly charge.

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Robert Baer

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Youtube is useless for me; i am on dial-up.

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Robert Baer

On a sunny day (Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:50:47 -0800) it happened Robert Baer wrote in :

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LOL:-)

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Jan Panteltje

Most states this is a violation of law... COvered under the 'harrassing and threatening phone calls' statutes...

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PeterD

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It is trivial to build a box such that...

Phone rings

Observe Caller-ID

If unknown to you or 800, press a button

Your phone stops ringing

Caller still hears ringing, finally gives up

I'm pondering how to automate this, and add features such as...

Allow roll to voice mail

Allow forwarding

Ring X times (just shy of VM activation) then kill the connection.

Nastygrams (but why bother?) ...Jim Thompson

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| James E.Thompson, CTO                            |    mens     |
| Analog Innovations, Inc.                         |     et      |
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| Phoenix, Arizona  85048    Skype: Contacts Only  |             |
| Voice:(480)460-2350  Fax: Available upon request |  Brass Rat  |
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Jim Thompson

It's not my problem that you are so cheap that you don't have caller-ID.

And stop whining... is there anyone who really needs to call you anyway ?:-) ...Jim Thompson

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| James E.Thompson, CTO                            |    mens     |
| Analog Innovations, Inc.                         |     et      |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems  |    manus    |
| Phoenix, Arizona  85048    Skype: Contacts Only  |             |
| Voice:(480)460-2350  Fax: Available upon request |  Brass Rat  |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com |    1962     |
             
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Jim Thompson

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Ahahahahahaha!

Exactly right!

The "cute little Mexican midget" was a little over the top though...

Mark L. Fergerson

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alien8752

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