Residential Circuit breaker?

ehsjr wrote in news:i613g5$ce4$ snipped-for-privacy@news.eternal-september.org:

It depends. In Canada their is no standardization federally there are different code books province to province. I have a 2001 Ontario code book I bought when we went through residential wireing codes in my first semester at College. I'll dig around and see if I can find it and see what is applicable here Ontario.

I agree that would be the safest having the GFCI on the first circuit in a branch makes sense, whether its requiried here; off the top of my head I dont know.

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Hammy
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Richard Henry wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@z34g2000pro.googlegroups.com:

Yea Its not my house I dont have a sump pump in mine. I know little about them. He is getting some wall seepage though.

Their is water visible in the pipes all the time its always withn an inch or to of the pipe lip.

I told them when they bought that place the landscapeing was graded wrong funnelling water into the foundation rather then away and he still hasnt installed eavestrough.

I dont have a sump pump and I've only had two water issues both due to foundation cracks nothing severe just a small puddle by the cracks. I fixed one and had the other fixed inside the house useing pressure injection. I've since graded my landscapeing and installed eavestrough's havent had any water problems since.

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Hammy

Richard Henry wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@y32g2000prc.googlegroups.com:

Well I would be standing right beside the breaker so yea, flip the main breaker. If that is the case then that would be the time to find out wouldnt you agree?

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Hammy

Hammy wrote in news:Xns9DEAC20E617A4Hammyhamsterca@69.16.185.250:

What is this some novel method for testing breakers or something for some people? Why what do you do diaasemble it and run a battery of test? Thats something some PHD dweeb would do then charge $500 bucks to an idiot. With my method you know right away 1 second. I also would hazrd to guess that they may have a been desighned to fail safe (open), but theres a saying "shit happens" and things dont always do what they are designed to do. If this wasnt the case residentiual electrical fires wouldnt occur with such frequency now would they. So yea the safest way is to actually test the thing standing there.

Its common practice to short all lines on branches in construction sites when you dont want them powered. It makes it safe in case some one else is working somewhere and decides to try and flip a breaker on a branch someone else is working on; the breaker should immdeatily flip back.

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Hammy

code books province to province. I have a 2001

first semester at College. I'll dig around and see

There is no standardization in the US either. Each state/city/town/county (whatever level of jurisdiction such things are delegated to) has its own rules and levels of enforcement. They usually use the NFPA's code but often have addendums or use the code from previous years.

branch in wet locations

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krw

Bwa-ha-ha-ha... You are funny, know that? I gave you the answers, sorry you don't like them.

FYI, not all shorts are zero ohms. FYI, circuit breakers rated at 20 amps usually don't trip at 15 amps. FYI, shorting a circuit breaker (I guess you are saying you'll short the circuit breaker's output) is not a terribly good or safe test.

Clearly you are in over your head with this problem... Good luck, Jon...

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PeterD

PeterD wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Nothing will ever be zero ohms you will have conductor and contact resistance.A short is a fault idiot meaning its either faulted or not. Its not semi faulted. Where did you come up with that dummy? They came up with this word intermittent.

No shit idiot they wont interrupt at 200A for certain ms. Whats your point?

I've already done it.Its done all the time.I'm still alive to write.

Clearly you have no idea what your talking about and hence shouldnt have responded to the thread. You are the most dangerous of morons you think you know what your talking about but you dont.

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Hammy

different code books province to province. I have a 2001

my first semester at College. I'll dig around and see

branch makes sense, whether its requiried here; off the

I used the word "needed" instead of the word "required" to try to avoid making it a code issue, as I didn't know what code applied to your situation. You said it better than I. Your last paragraph sums it up nicely, and avoids it being a code question.

Ed

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ehsjr

Shorting is also done on much higher powered circuits, like light rail to prevent inappropriate re-energization as well. I know, i was on the work crew when LACMTA denergized the overhead lines so my work crew could work safely above their tracks.

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JosephKK

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short is a fault idiot meaning its either faulted or

with this word intermittent.

responded to the thread. You are the most dangerous of morons

Idiot.

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PeterD

PeterD wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

You could redeem yourself by explaining how water has a resistance of around 10-12 ohms which is what you seem to think based upon your 15A. The current being kept below the breaker trip level.

You could test your theory by standing in a puddle of water and stickinmg your tounge in a socket and have your boyfriend stick one probe up your ass (of his choice) and the other in your mouth. Tell me if all you get is 15A takeing into acount your resitance between line and ground.

If I dont hear back I guess the experiment was a success at least for the rest of humanity.

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Hammy

different code books province to province. I have a 2001

my first semester at College. I'll dig around and see

There most certainly IS a Canadian code book. Once it is issued, the Provinces look at it from their local point of view and then accept it as is, or issue a Quarterly Bulletin simultaneously. Quarterly Bulletins are also issued for changes between issue dates for the Canada wide Code.

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This 'Hammy' persona sure seems similar to 'Josepi' in his mannerisms and know it all attitude. The guy specializes in arguing with his other sockpuppets. He's also been spewing misinformation for years. Claimed to have been a transformer engineer for twenty years and then stated a 50Hz transformer needed double the core mass of a 60Hz transformer.

mike

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m II

m II wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@news.x-privat.org:

If your going to post a refrence at least have it support your view. Did you miss this.

The Canadian Electrical Code serves as the basis for wiring regulations across Canada. Generally, legislation adopts the code by reference, usually with a schedule of changes that amend the code for local conditions.

If thats to complicated for you each juristiction eventually has the final say in what they adopt so there is no blanket standardization.Which is what I said dumb ass.

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Hammy

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different code books province to province. I have a 2001

my first semester at College. I'll dig around and see

There is a "US" code book, by those same standards, then. The NFPA puts out one book and the various jurisdictions pick and choose what parts they want to incorporate into law. None are forced, in any way, to follow any of it, though.

I'd guess 6/5ths, but I don't even play a transformer even in the movies.

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krw

m II wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@news.x-privat.org:

Once again your writing when you didnt read I said there is no standardization not that there isnt a national book. Same as the US has the NEC but every justiction is different. If you have a problem with me fine but dont put words in my mouth.

And for the record I've always been civil and grateful for any advice unless someone gets to be an obnoxious condesending asshole with me.Show otherwise?

When have I said I was transformer engineer? You need to get your facts straight before you start spewing off at the mouth.

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Hammy

Nunya will get in a lathered frenzy when he see that....no, he'll be

*furious*. Those sensitive types are like that.

mike

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m II

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My apologies to any GAY's ;-)

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Hammy

You just need to donate a "probe" to show your sincerity :-) ...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Women have nice asses but I still dont let my probe get shit on it. So the apology is going to have to be good enough.:-)

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Hammy

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