Mine quit - no vertical output.
Ideas? quotes? Etc?
Thanks.
Mine quit - no vertical output.
Ideas? quotes? Etc?
Thanks.
Join the old Tekscopes group. It moved from Yahoo to GroupsIO. The people w ho repair old Tektronix gear are there. Unlike Usenet, they do not tolerate foul language and insults, so some of the people on this group would be ba nned in a hurry. Some members offer kits to make extenders for the 7000 ser ies of scopes.
What do you use a curve tracer for?
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc Science teaches us to doubt.
snipped-for-privacy@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:
Testing transistors.
Do you use a curve tracer? I don't.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc Science teaches us to doubt.
They're pretty handy at times. You get results a lot faster than with a SMU, but the SMU gives you precise answers.
-- Thanks, - Win
snipped-for-privacy@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:
Same reason some folks still like tube amplifiers for their audio.
Data sheets generally have the curves for fets. Bipolars aren't very interesting to curve trace.
I sometimes do a point measurement for something not on a data sheet, like to measure actual capacitance or breakdown voltages, but a classic curve tracer might not do those. Like 1800 volts for a SiC fet, or 0.25 pF for a small diode.
I'd love to have a small USB box that characterized diodes and transistors, but it would need to do c-v curves and pulsed breakdown measurements. It would need to be cheap, for infrequent use.
My old Boonton 72 is great for c-v curves. I've been doing that lately for varicaps. The Skyworks varicaps have 15v breakdown spec, actually zener at 24 to 47, but the data sheets only have c-v data out to 8 volts. I don't need a curve tracer to measure a diode's forward or breakdown voltages. A scope curve tracer isn't very quantitative anyhow.
My old Keithley electrometer is good for pA leakage testing.
Curve tracers were popular for a while when transistors were new, but I think people lost interest.
We have a few Keysight SMUs. Is there a curve tracer PC program for those? I could have one of the kids do one in Python.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc Science teaches us to doubt.
And an HP 4145B gives you the best of both, with four SMUs. (Assuming you can keep the floppy drive working.)
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
-- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant
Took a quick look at that Tekscopes group. WOW! These guys are sharp and to the point!
Thanks.
Part matching, spec conformance/non-conformance, check off-datasheet specs, etc
Southern Methodist University? Spencer Municipal Utilities? Saint Mary's University of Minnesota? a web based application? Sacramento Municipal Utility District? AHA! What is an SMU (Source Measure Unit)?
Sometimes one needs more than hip-deep boots for wading...
Yes. Pronounced smooo, rimes with cow noise.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement
Matching soulds iffy, on an analog oscilloscope curve tracer. Better to design so that any data-sheet-conforming parts work.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement
le who repair old Tektronix gear are there. Unlike Usenet, they do not tole rate foul language and insults, so some of the people on this group would b e banned in a hurry. Some members offer kits to make extenders for the 7000 series of scopes.
n download manuals.
You're welcome.
On some of my designs, the part datasheet has no spec or a non-meaningful value. For example, there is no bipolar transistor datasheet spec for the E-B junction zener voltage; "5V max" if at all. I dare you to find a bipolar with a 6.2V zener breakdown by using the datasheet. Or 9.5V zener breakdown. Tempco of that Vz? So you gotta measure and best with curve tracer so you know how sharp, if avalanches, etc. And one can easily match within 10mV.
Thanks!!!
Robert Baer wrote in news:Sz1sG.273918$ snipped-for-privacy@fx45.iad:
Matching and culling transistor pairs (using a curve tracer) has been around since before stereo amplifiers.
Can you read Vz and the tempco of Vz, to millivolts, off the screen of an analog scope? I can do that easily on a DVM. I think the diode range of my Fluke is 1 mA up to 10 volts.
If you use a be junction as a zener, you should be careful that it's repeatable.
Some transistors are accidentally 6.2v "reference zeners" from collector to emitter with the base open. But's that's probably not suited to production.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc Science teaches us to doubt.
who repair old Tektronix gear are there. Unlike Usenet, they do not tolera te foul language and insults, so some of the people on this group would be banned in a hurry. Some members offer kits to make extenders for the 7000 s eries of scopes.
download manuals.
Ditto - been hanging out in that group for years. Lots of SME's with real w orld experience. Interesting to hear stories from the ppl that did the des ign/fab/testing in the tek labs. If you wanna know about common failure modes of tek scopes, where to find r eplacement parts, etc. that is the place to hang J
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