Relativity has no theory as point relative to point needs no more decription

Try to distinquish between the geometrical description and dynamical. Electric field is like the diffusion of electrons. S*

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And that "matter" no matter how you sugarcoat it, boils down to aether.

What "giant whirls" are these? Please provide images of the "giant whirl" for the ten nearest stars or ten brightest or however you pick them.

ROF,L.

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J. Clarke

What about them? Now we find that you have no clue how a vacuum tube operates.

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Do tell us where you are getting this stuff.

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J. Clarke

So the electric field is filled with electrons?

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And you have no clue what is a dielectric. You can fill a tube with glass. Will be operate. In a vacuum tube is the saturated vapour from glass and metal parts. It is ionised. Electrons are free to move. Is the same in glass? S*

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Real electric field disappear with the time. It means that electrons from a charged body diffuse into adjacent area. S*

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Yes. But there were many models of aether. Maxwell's and Lorentz were like solid body. Sokes like jelly.

But the Faraday's and Lorenz is the simplest. Saturated vapour, dust, debris, planets. All rotate with the Sun.

You probably know that close to the Earth and in the whole Solar System are many planets, debris and dust. All of them (and mainly the Sun) produce the saturated vapour (rare plasma). If the dust rotate with the Sun the rare plasma also rotate. Have you any doubt? S*

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Is commonly know: "Despite this hatred of rigour, Heaviside was able to greatly simplify Maxwell's 20 equations in 20 variables, replacing them by four equations in two variables. Today we call these 'Maxwell's equations' forgetting that they are in fact 'Heaviside's equations'.

The Maxwell's model is described in:

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But the Challis model and Maxwell's model for solid dielectric. The both are a history. The heliosphere rotate with the Sun. MM is the prove. But why the ISM do not rotate with the Earth (Michelson-Gale)? It is a question? S*

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But what matter is in "empty space":

  1. Pairs electron-positron, or
  2. ISM (rare plasma +dust), or
  3. ........ S*
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If you mean what is left in imperfect vacuum the answer is mostly force fields like Earth's gravity and Earth's magnetic field.

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I'm sorry, but I can't even figure out what you are trying to say with that word salad.

Do you believe that the high vacuum in a vacuum tube is "ionized"? Is that what you are saying?

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???? According to what evidence?

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Yes. Imagine the three conductors in series. Metal, high vacuum and metal. There are the contacts voltages. Electrons are free to flow in the all conductors. But electrons do not like to jump off from metal to vacuum. If you help them with the field emission or thermoemission the electrons flow freely through the all three conductors. In such arrangement the vacuum is almost like a superconductor.

It is the same in metal-metal contacts. But voltages are low. S*

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???? According to what evidence?

Charge a plate capacitor and observe the time of discharging for different substances between plates.. It will be longast for teflon and shorttest for vacuum. For air it is longer for higher pressures. Do you know such evidences?

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