What mass?
True but what is that got to do with entities of matter and its properties?
Mathew Orman
No, you can measure the property of matter but not property of space.
As many people you seam to adopt the notion that mathematics affect the reality.
But the truth is that mathematics can only be used to create approximate model of it.
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You just said you can measure energy and electric field.
Therefore you must be saying that energy and electric field are matter.
Matter necessarily has mass.
So how much mass is in the electric field surrounding a charged ping- pong ball? How much mass is in a 3.4 GeV gamma ray?
Please demonstrate the consistency of your position.
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True, and that is why those constants change as the measurement methods improve and less residue particles occupy the vacuum space. And it is also true that empty space does not exist as there is always some residue entities occupying it.
Mathew Orman
No, that is calculated abstract mathematical value and has nothing to do with property of space.
Mathematics has no effect on reality. It can only be used to create an approximate model of it.
Mathew Orman
You can tell me because I do not know and I am not investigating properties of gamma rays. As far as I know the mass is a property of particles which are based on atomic structure. Waves and fields do not exhibit properties of mass.
Mathew Orman
Please do not make up ambiguous questions.
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Then on what basis you think they are science fiction?
Answer: You can measure them when they are associated with motion of matter. Without association they are just science fiction.
Ich hoffe, Sie verstehen!
MFG
Mathew Orman
So you are saying that what is measured is the dielectric constant of "electrons and ions"?
Michelson-Gale gave almost exactly the fringe-shift predicted by relativity.
If it is valid then you cannot identify an absolute frame.
Another name for "aether".
Prove that this "whirl" exists.
You mean besides "relativity is valid"?
Uh, electrons and ions are most assuredly "matter".
ROF,L. They are identical. Heaviside just uses a more compact notation.
The property of mass is gravitational force. Gravity extends through empty space. The extent is called a "field". This signal is a gravity wave:
Slow down, engage brain before opening mouth, let the Duck do the knee-jerk reactions.
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fSorry, but it is *measurable*.
I'm sorry, but you really do need to catch up on some basics. You have said a number of bald assertions about nature and then confessed that you don't know enough about the matter to have any basis for the assertion.
This approach is common on usenet among cranks: "I'm going to say something, and if it's wrong, then it's your duty to explain to me both why it's wrong and what is instead right." This isn't the right way to go about things.
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OK. I will let you have the last word. Thank you for replying.
Ich hoffe, Sie verstehen!
MFG
Mathew Orman
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Tes. Michelson wrote that the equation is the same for aether and relativity.
No. Faraday wrote: " It endeavors to dismiss the aether, but not the vibration." From:
The giant whirls of matter around stars see each astronomer. The Sun rotate and its heliosphere must do the same.
Relativity is derived from the aether. LorenTz aether, Do theory to Lorenz (without T) and Faraday ideas. S*
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W "przestrzeni" miedzy plytkami kondensatora sa zawsze jony i elektrony. Proznia i szklo maja inne wlasciwosci (przewodnosc).
Jakie wlasciwosci ma Twoja przestrzen? S*
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No. The rare plasma is like metal. It is a conductor. So it is the conductivity of "electrons and ions".
Do not you hear about the vacuum tubes with cold catodes? S*
Przestrzeñ nie jest moja. A jedyne wlasciwosci to ojetosc materii.
Ich hoffe, Sie verstehen!
MFG
Mathew Orman
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No. Heaviside described the Challis idea. For Maxwell it was senseless: "Professor Challis[20] conceives magnetism to consist in currents of a fluid whose direction corresponds with that of the lines of magnetic force; and electric currents, on this theory, are accompanied by, if not dependent on, a rotatory motion of the fluid about the axes of the current" From:
Challis idea is now known as Biot-Savart law. It is the hydraulic analogy.
"Maxwell equatins" wrote by Heaviside are geometrical like Kepler laws. They describe only motins of the planet. There no mass and energy. For this must be the seperate set of equations. S*
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ISM (rare plasma +dust) is intensively studied. The dust is in equilibrum with the saturated vapour (rare plasma). So the mass and properties are easy to identify. S*
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