Relativity has no theory as point relative to point needs no more decription

No, anything that cannot be detected, sensed, measured and observed is. You cannot hold the San in your hand but you can observe its presence.

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No, magnetic field is matter as well. It is irrelevant that mass as property of magnetic field has not being detected.

The relation between magnetic field and magnet or electromagnet which produces it i well defined and mathematically modeled.

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You get no current flow which when explored using the Ohm equation result in infinite number. Space has no influence which does not constitute a properly of space.

In capacitor the dielectric is an atomic structure which affect electrical capacity. Vacuum capacitor has no dielectric but the absence of material influence has a assigned number to satisfy the equation to match the measurement results. There are many constants which are assigned to vacuum but non of them is a result of space property. Or all of them are the results of no influence . They simply satisfy the related equations for vacuum.

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You are twisting my statement.

I stated that space has no property other than containment of matter. When it constrains matter the properly of containment can be observed.

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And so I asked you: You don't think that momentum and energy can be measured? You don't think electric field can be measured?

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Why is it irrelevant? If it is matter, it MUST have rest mass. If you look and discover that there is no rest mass found, then this is how you know that your claim that it is matter has a problem.

If you are willing to make claims about nature and then consider any evidence to the contrary to be irrelevant, then you are diverging from science. You are no longer thinking scientifically. Instead, you are making statements of faith -- like religion -- about nature.

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In that case you are redefining standard, accepted terminology.

Give us an experiment that will detect that mass.

So? It's not the magnet that burns a hole in you if you stand in the path of a 10 gigawatt laser. It's the field.

And you know with certainty that you get no current flow? You've done this experiment yourself with the most sensitive available devices?

Even when the dielectric is a vacuum?

So why does that number and not some other match the measurement results?

So what does cause them to have those values and not some other?

In other words one can measure the properties but they still are not properties.

I give up,

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Yes. The 0,5 km/s gives ALMOST the same results. But after 1925 scientists have trouble. Between 1905 and 1925 most scientist were sure that the result of Michelson-Gale experiment will be also null (like MM).

SR is valid for the absolute frame. But light travel in the rare plasma (ISM = rare plasma + dust). ISM is produced by the Sun and rotate with it. It is a giant whirl. Here you can see the trouble. Why there no small local whirl rotating with the Earth?

If you accept the Michelson-Gale try to work out an answer. S*

But what to do with the electrons and ions (ISM)?

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relationship between magnetic field strength and mass? (I'm looking for an equation.)

Maxwell had 20 equations and there was such. Todays fields are wrote by Heaviside. His equations are geometrical only. Maxwell model and Heaviside model are quait diffrent. S*

measure the impedance of empty space. (It's 377 ohms, you can look it up.)

Not empty but filled with electrons and ions (see ISM). S*

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Nie oproznisz jej z elektronow i jonow. W rurce Toriczellego jest para nasycona rteci i szkla. S*

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In real vacuum are electrons and ions. S*

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Gamma rays are electromagnetic waves and not pure energy.

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Those are not question.

Did you mean:

Do you think that momentum and energy can be measured? A: yes. Do you think electric field can be measured? A: yes

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What is the rest mass of a gamma ray?

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Jaki to ma wplyw na wlasciwosci przestrzeni?

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Then on what basis do you think they are science fiction? Energy is not matter. Neither is momentum.

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