REACH regs

It looks like a setup for "mission creep" gone insane? Won't the Substances of Very High Concern list grow endlessly?

Absolutely! That is the function of governments. They should "top off" the list by adding water, since it dissolves everything and the more pure it is, the more corrosive it is. With water on the list, nothing physical could be sold or transported. Solves a lot of problems...

Nah, it just has to be taxed heavily to pay for the impact on the environment.

Not exactly. Salt water is more corrosive than pure dihydrogen monoxide. th en technically in a vehicle that uses pure glycol as coolant, most petroleu m distillates could still be transported. Polypropylene glycol I think has higher thermal conductivity than ethylene glycol so it is more suitable as engine coolan without the addition of dihydrogen monoxide.

The MSDS on dihydrogen monoxide is available on the internet and s quite le ngthy concerning its dangers, and is not exhaustive, obviously.

Water vapor is by far the most active greenhouse gas. And liquid water absorbs enormous amounts of solar radiation, converting most of it to heat!

Something needs to be done.

I suggest, deploying into the lakes and oceans, trillions of rubber duckies, which would reflect sunlight back up into space and save the planet.

Longterm consumption of H2O is often fatal.

I don't see anything about selling or transporting, only registering. Doesn't sound so crazy that if you play around with a 100 ton of dangerous chemical you need to register it, it case there is a mishap or you "accidently" lose it down the drain

-Lasse

Perhaps rubber duckie credits?

Amazingly, whether it's consumed in large quantities or in ppb quantities, it's lethal. Nasty stuff indeed!

Who was talking about 100 tons of any chemical? Did you read the other thread about tracking tantalum capacitors etc.?

Quack and trade.

• False; the higher the purity of water, the more corrosive it is. Do a little research on ultra-pure water, as well as the impossibility of getting 100.00000 percent pure water.

So you would be really happy to have some dodgy two bit chemical plant on your doorstep detoxing nerve agents without a licence then?

It seems entirely reasonable to me to license handling of bulk carcinogenic, mutagenic or toxic and bioaccumulating materials.

Most of the people exposed to beta-naphthylamine are already dead - it would be insane if that were ever allowed to be used again outside of extremely carefully controlled conditions. DuPont played its part well.

Hueper was right and workers were still being routinely exposed to beta-naphthylamine until the early 1970's it was very nasty stuff.

Tracking truckloads of chemicals is quite different from tracking every bit of tantalum made into capacitors and used in an electronic product.

Not quite true...if you sell anything (at least in electronics industry), you have to register and jump all of the hoops - find the smelter of the tin in your solder,etc.

The reg starts (i think) at 100 tonnes per year, then steps to 10 tonnes per year, then steps to 1 tonnes per year. Initial metals named are tin, tungsten, tantalum and gold. Implication you have to find the smelter..

Try track about 0.00065 lb of tin per PCB and sales under 1000 per year. And they want you to track "every bit" to prevent the Congo from using profits to support terrorism.

insane? > > Won't the Substances of Very High Concern list > grow endlessly? > > Absolutely! That is the function of governments. They should "top off" the list by adding water, since it dissolves everything and the more pure it is, the more corrosive it is. With water on the list, nothing physical could be sold or transported. Solves a lot of problems...

monoxide. then technically in a vehicle that uses pure glycol as coolant, most petroleum distillates could still be transported. Polypropylene glycol I think has higher thermal conductivity than ethylene glycol so it is more suitable as engine coolan without the addition of dihydrogen monoxide.

quite lengthy concerning its dangers, and is not exhaustive, obviously.

It obviously must be buffered (at least occasionally) with C12H22O6 or C2H6O or both and optionally flavorings to safely consume it.

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insane? > > Won't the Substances of Very High Concern list > grow endlessly? > > Absolutely! That is the function of governments. They should "top off" the list by adding water, since it dissolves everything and the more pure it is, the more corrosive it is. With water on the list, nothing physical could be sold or transported. Solves a lot of problems...

then technically in a vehicle that uses pure glycol as coolant, most petroleum distillates could still be transported. Polypropylene glycol I think has higher thermal conductivity than ethylene glycol so it is more suitable as engine coolan without the addition of dihydrogen monoxide.

lengthy concerning its dangers, and is not exhaustive, obviously.

There is a long list of plastics that salt water does not dissolve that ultrapure water does. Teflon is in that list, as are perhaps all silicone materials.

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