Re: The Electric Car

Oct 04, 2007 26 Replies


snipped-for-privacy@specsol.spam.sux.com snipped-for-privacy@specsol.spam.sux.com posted to


> sci.electronics.design:
> > > >> > > >> [about LOX, H2O2, etc.]
> >> ...
> >> >> > I don't know if such a thing would really work, or what
> >> >> > its
> >> >> > effects on an engine would be, but its a kinda cool idea. I
> >> >> > might make tinkering with it a winter project.
> >> >
> >> >> You'll never get back the energy it took to liquefy the O2.
> >> >
> >> > Nothing is going to ignite until it is gas; that's what the
> >> > intake and compression strokes are for.
> >
> >> Filling a TDC cylinder with liquid fuel and liquid O2, I bet they'd
> >> ignite real good, if the LOX doesn't freeze the fuel; you might
> >> need a lot of energy to make a spark through it, however.
> >
> > Liquids don't ignite.
> >
> >
> If you are so very sure about, that i suggest that you try mixing
> unsymmetrical di-methyl hydrazine (UDMH) and red fuming nitric acid
> (RFNA) (glacial). Take very serious precautions and read the
> relevant MSDS before making the attempt.

Do you understand the difference between combustion and a chemical reaction?


I thought not.



Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply.

Then, please educate us. What, exactly, is the difference between "combustion" and "a chemical reaction"?

Thanks, Rich

In the common vernacular, combustion occurs when you light a candle and a chemical reaction occurs when you toss a chunk of sodium in water.

Or, in other words, things don't burn until the fuel is gas and the fuel/oxygen mix is brought to the ignition temperature, again in the common vernacular.

Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply.

Careful with that "common vernacular" stuff - Engineers probably don't like it very much.

Thanks! Rich

Well, I'm an engineer and I like it, especially with a non-differentiated audience.

If the common vernacular fails, use equations.

Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply.

Yeah, I had that once. It was very painful.

John

Did they give you penicillin for it?

Keith

Cipro is my drug of choice.

John

snipped-for-privacy@specsol.spam.sux.com snipped-for-privacy@specsol.spam.sux.com posted to sci.electronics.design:

How about you lookup hypergolic reactions? TWIT! You were given sufficient to learn better for yourself, but no you just attack.

snipped-for-privacy@specsol.spam.sux.com snipped-for-privacy@specsol.spam.sux.com posted to sci.electronics.design:

This is NOT a non-differentiated audience. Not much of an engineer, look up the chemicals as i have told you.

The audience ranges from drooling, raving lunatics to Phd's with everything in between.

What would you call it?

Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply.

Please list any land vehicles whose internal combustion engines run on hypergolic reactions.

Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply.

sci.electronics.design? ;-)

Cheers! Rich

And sci.physics and sci.energy.

Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply.

Gosh, I bet you get more wingnuts than we do!

John

An understatement at best.

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snipped-for-privacy@specsol.spam.sux.com snipped-for-privacy@specsol.spam.sux.com posted to sci.electronics.design:

I do not know of any. But there are plenty of space vehicles that use this combination, precisely because it is a hypergolic pair. The one step upline issue was can liquids burn? These do.

Actually, the issue was liquids burning in an internal combustion engine.

Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply.

Don't forget all the left hand threaded lugnuts. They are even worse.

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snipped-for-privacy@specsol.spam.sux.com snipped-for-privacy@specsol.spam.sux.com posted to sci.electronics.design:

It does not seem to be stated quite that way. Plus there is always the compression issue in an IC engine. Gasses compress but liquids don't.

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