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>>JosephKK wrote:
>>> >>>
>>>> JosephKK wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> JosephKK wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> JosephKK wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> JosephKK wrote:
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ... Which
may
>>>>>>>>>> lead to C) If they did equivalent work in private what would their
income be?
>>>>>>>>> Absolutely not. Not by a long shot. In some states those can be glad
if
>>>>>>>>> their social security will pay for the property taxes.
>>>>>>>>> Jeorg, i asked you to provide comparisons between public employees and
>>>>>>>>> equivalent private positions. ...
>>>>>>>> Not that I have ignored this but I believe Jim's USA Today link has
>>>>>>>> definitely answered that question.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>> No, not at all. There was only crying about 6 figure incomes, not any
>>>>>>> comparison of equivalent positions in private industry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You should read the link from Jim again:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By the way, will you do a police patrol job for what you are making
today?
>>>>> If I get the pension :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take another look at the LA link I posted. Also, the guys that now raked
>>>>>> in over $40k/month is not a policeman or sheriff. It's absurd and and
>>>>>> unfair to taxpayers. So I fully support the sentiment of no new taxes.
>>>>> Where is any discussion of what these peoples jobs tasks are? What do
they do?
>>>> How many people report to them? Where did you find this? I would really
hate to
>>>> find out after reading many thousands of books that i am illiterate.
>>>>
>>>> That is not very difficult. Pick guys with unusual names, key into
>>>> search engine, and you will for example find that Keith Comrie was the
>>>> city administrative officer who is now pulling over $186,000 per year in
>>>> pension money.
>>>>
>>>> And he now pulls over $116000 per year:
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> How droll, Keith Comrie is NOT mentioned in the link you provided.
>>
>>
>>Let's take it real slow then. Click on link below, same one as posted
>>before, take mouse, scroll down to area with gray background, count the
>>lines until you get to seven:
>>
>>
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>Oh my a different link! Read it stem to stern, something you should do as well.
>Absolutely nothing about job duties except for city council members (A full
time
job in LA). Do read the commentary on the page, you may learn something.
>>
>>> And you still object to public entity engineers being paid anything like
>>> what you make. ...
>>
>>
>>Where have I ever said that? The link Jim brought speaks volumes.
>>
>I have already noted the lack job descriptions for that one as well.
>>
>> Why should engineers working for a city, county, state, or
>>> federal government be paid a fraction of their value on the open market?
>>>
>>
>>An engineer does not get that kind of pension in the private sector. I
>>have nothing at all against this or any other persons, it is just one
>>example out of many.
>>
>If they were engineer enough to invest half of the difference (after paying for
>their own health insurance) in their own future they would be even better off.
>
>>
>>> There is an aspect of you get what you pay for involved here. Do you really
>>> want the City Engineer to come from the bottom of the barrel?
>>
>>
>>Of course not but over $15k (as in fifteen thousand) per month in
>>pension is outrageous. This is one of the core reasons why CA is
>>becoming a financial train wreck.
>
>So please find and list these city engineers that get paid that much let alone
>get that much retirement. And look at the cost of living in that locale as
well.
>I could just barely retire on 75k/y, could you? I expect to be semi-retired
until
i pass 100 years old (should i live so long).
My pension is half that. I'd *love* a doubling of my pension, while getting paid even more than I am. Get real!