Re: philosophical question about sharing information

Boy, is that one-sided nonsense! Forget how much of the world is actually habitable, or how much fresh water is available there. Energy demand rises with the number of people demanding it. (It also rises when supporting people in marginally habitable environments.) Resources are depleted in proportion to the number of people doing the depleting. You just don't get it.

Jerry

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On the contrary, humankind did just fine energy-wise prior to the industrial age.

What are you worried about? Even if petroleum runs out (and it will never "run out" - it will just get more and more expensive to extract the last bit of petroleum), there is still coal. There are still methane hydrates. There is still nuclear power. There is still biomass. Use all of these technologies to distill seawater if we must, to desalinate seawater.

The reality: 1.5 million dead Americans each year (due to abortions).

Al Qaeda would be proud.

Michael

-- Consider: A million and a half new Americans are murdered every year by abortion. No other issue involves numbers that high. Nothing short of a full-scale nuclear or biological war between well-armed nation states would kill that many people, and we aren=92t in imminent danger of having one of those. Jobs? The economy? Taxes? Education? The environment? Immigration? Forget it. We do not have nine million people dying in a typical president=92s term of office due to bad job programs, bad economic policies, bad taxes, bad education, bad environmental law, bad immigration rules=97or even all of these combined. All of them together cannot provide a reason proportionate to the need to end abortion. Make no mistake: Abortion is the preeminent moral issue of our time. It is the black hole that out- masses every other issue. Presenting any other issues as if they were proportionate to it is nothing but smoke and mirrors.

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mrdarrett

Of course, that's the old scam of redefining murder by including all those who haven't ever drawn a breath. That quickly spirals into the absurd.

mrdarrett@ gmail.com wrote:

So, let's throw out all we have learned about environmental impact since this apparently trivial piece was written.

Right. Let's OVER-simplify the model. That always works so well.

The biggest problem we face as a species overly-focused on quantity of lives--not quality--is WATER. You would think a good model maker would start with a baseline that didn't put the population in the middle of a desert.

He didn't mention where the sewage plants would go either. Hint: NIMBY. ..nor the power plants: Again: NIMBY. ...nor where these people would work. Hint: Not everyone can just twiddle bits; heavy industry takes real estate--AND WATER. ...nor what it takes to transport food to them.

...and, of course, there's how each human life impacts the biosphere, to include OTHER plant and animal species. Start with the dwindling numbers of gorillas seen as "Bush Meat" and scrawny Polar Bears not able to feed their next generation in an Arctic changing due to global industrialization.

The hubris of my species WRT the "Be fruitful and multiply" thing while completely ignoring the whole *stewardship* thing makes me want to puke.

...and do we really need to mention that it's those who oppose birth control, who are the same idiots preaching the *abstinence* nonsense[1] (which is counter to our most powerful urge) with the goal of fewer teen pregnancies.

...and the models examined show that when humans have stable access to food and healthcare (including contraception), there is no longer a need to breed like rats to try to get just a couple of offspring to their reproductive years. That is, the population is reduced. . . [1] ...completely ignoring the fact that those in these programs have HIGHER rates of pregnancy than those who aren't.

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JeffM

Simple things make a good starting point.

Ok, you want a water energy balance?

Let's design a power plant to produce 2L of water per day for each individual, assuming a population of 7 billion. Since the heat capacity of water = 4.19 J/g K, and the enthalpy of vaporization of water is approximately 45 kJ/mol, with a little thought one can calculate the power requirement is approximately 460 GW.

How does that compare with the power plants available today?

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The installed total capacity of nuclear power plants ONLY (excluding coal, natural gas, hydro) is about 329 GW. Not a bad start.

Ok, I did my homework, now calculate for us the methane requirement for a Haber-Bosch synthetic ammonia plant to produce nitrogenous fertilizer.

The NIMBY thing goes away when the alternative is to perish.

So you see this behavior as normal, then?

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I'm so sorry to hear that; do come back when you are feeling better.

Funny, I thought our most powerful urge is the urge to breathe.

Kind regards,

Michael

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mrdarrett

I think many of us would appreciate it if this sub-thread migrated to a more relevant newsgroup. If someone wishes to follow it then they can.

Perhaps: talk.abortion talk.politics.misc

Thank you, J. Elms

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J Elms

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In other words snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com is a leftist weenie.

...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

And your contribution to _this_ group has been... ??

I work with a start-up at Georgia Tech. You must be that doofus down the hall they keep laughing about... you keep replying to googlegroups postings ;-)

...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

And pretty much most of the rest have probably already flagged it with "ignore thread." Such a handy feature ...

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Rich Webb

nfilter is even better... I don't see any trace of it at all ;-)

...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

First to file is how it is done in most of the ROW.

There were specialists offering this service even in the 80's. Imaging ion microprobes from the likes of Cameca combined with suitable software were well able to reverse engineer the chips of the day. It just cost a lot of $$$$ to do. I expect it is still the same even today.

An object file or DLL is somewhat easier to disentangle. At some point the code has to be excutable no matter how fancy the surrounding encryption might be. An adversary always has the advantage in this game. It is not for nothing that most licences make you promise not to reverse engineer the code.

Some of the best bank crypto chips are pretty good these days - but at least one weaker specimen has fallen to a technical attack.

Doesn't really work though does it. Xerox have a patent on the mathematical identity X + (-X) = 0 as applied to the 8x8 DCT for JPEG. It is a very effective blocking patent :(

The patent claims are wide and noone has dared step into the minefield. There is a genuine improvement to be had for JPEG here which is based on the work of Hogboms CLEAN algorithm in radio astronomy dating from 1974 but it worked on any size of array and DCT or FFT.

USPTO don't look very hard. AFAICT their main question is are your dollars green and if the answer is "yes" they grant the patent.

It is then up to others to dispute the patent for massive legal costs or cross licence against some other equally vacuous patent "infringement" to avoid litigation. It is a game big players with very deep pockets.

Regards, Martin Brown

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Martin Brown

I did not know that.

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Simon S Aysdie

Jim Thomps>Sheeesh! Is _that_ my "title"?

You recognized enough of yourself in the description to rise to it, but--aside from the inflammatory rhetoric that encases your opinions-- your positions aren't all *that* far from those who are Left of center. Overall, you are not near enough to the fringe to justify the partisan warpaint with which you mark yourself.

QED

(I think the first right of an individual is to be born WANTED.)

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JeffM

I'm only hard-nosed about...

War, win period, end of argument. If Imanutjob opens his yap again, blow it away ;-)

Defame the US and I'll kick your ass.

Don't like the way we do "business"... keep your Europeon opinions to yourself.

Working for a living is mandatory... TINSTAAFL!

And I find yellow-belly leftist weenies repugnant,

Otherwise I'm pretty much laissez faire... just don't bother me with what you choose to do.

Absolutely! I certainly don't understand the religious (?) right.

...Jim Thompson

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|  Analog Innovations, Inc.                         |     et      |
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|  Phoenix, Arizona            Voice:(480)460-2350  |             |
|  E-mail Address at Website     Fax:(480)460-2142  |  Brass Rat  |
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Jim Thompson

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Aside from his presumably being a devout Catholic, I don't know what he is. I find it irksome that he wants others to live by his standards, just as he would find it irksome to be requires to adhere to mine.

Jerry

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Jerry Avins

They also use anonymous disclosure sites for defensive publishing, so they don't tip their hat where they're investigating.

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Keith
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krw

The US is not likely to win any future real wars. Iraq is as close as it has come in a while and the conflict has all but exhausted its warfighting capability, and with less than stellar results to show for it.

The US does not look so good when they do things like arm and train death squads to enable despotic third world rulers to brutally oppress and murder relatively defenseless and primitive people like the rural Amerindian populations in central and south America, yet when confronted with a well materialized, resourceful, and determined enemy, they get their ass kicked. It is making us look cowardly and incompetent...oh wait, the US is cowardly and incompetent. Someone needs to get a clue that it takes more than an overpriced ordnance delivery system to win a war.

I'm sure our long time adversaries, military, economic, or otherwise, just love sitting back and watching a fat pig of a US, led by a bumbling idiot, weaken itself into bankruptcy, powerlessness, and has-been status of a place without influence...

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Fred Bloggs

Good catch. Thanks.

Jerry

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Jerry Avins

"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

That's TANSTAAFL...

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Philip Martel

Lesson learned: reply to sophomoric threads, get infantile replies.

Now where is that ignore key..ah yes.

J. Elms

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J Elms

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I was trying to avoid being labeled a redneck using "ain't" into a double-negative ;-)

TINSTAAFL = There Is No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

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