Re: PC only boots after on/off/on cycle ?

Skybucks problems comes from a lack of female, or possibly male, intimate contact.

I bet he's into sheep, like Phil. :)

Very little now, I suppose, in any rhetorical sense if contrarian truth can be established on an Aristotelean precept that everything is something else when it breaks.

I stand utterly mystified and completely dumbfounded - much the same way one feels after discovering that their cats have been glued together for no particular reason.

Ha-ha.

The stupid thing is... I had dead motherboards with exactly these batteries ! ;) :)

Could have saved those 10 bucks ! LOL ;) =D

Bye, Skybuck.

P.S. 1: Serves me right for listening to 15 year old kids ! LOL.

P.S. 2: I removed the batteries from the dead motherboards, maybe they ll come in use some day ! ;) =D

P.S. 3: I got a huge ammount of surplus/additional equipment like cables, could sell them off maybe for additional cash if needed ;)

For now it's ok lol. I am starting to feel like a hardware shop... or the junk yard from transformers ! =DDDDD

Bye, Skybuck ;) =DD ;)

Thank God its not just me. I cannot seem to understand a F@$king thing Flasherly says. I think it might be that he's running his native language thru some sort of google translater or something.

Sitting in motherboards in a box for years most likely drained them. By the way, the CR2032 batteries are usually $1.99 each in the US.

I think his synapses are shorted

That'll buy you 7 at Digikey.

And they're not exactly known for great deals. Even cheaper on Ebay.

bad power supply.

Intellectual jousting.

OK, good source as long as they are name brand .I am not going to stick a 10 pack of made in vietnam Cr2032's in my motherboards.

I was just trying to point out the SkyF&*k that they should ever be $5 a pop.

A recent buy from China got me a card of 5 Sony, made in Japan, for $0.99, delivered! Good "use by date" as well.

Chris

ITYM "marked Sony, made in Japan".

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

Clearly stamped "Japan" on the battery. Marked "Matsushita Electric Industrial Co, Ltd Osaka 570 , Japan" on the card. EXP DATE 12-2017

Chris

Sorry Chris, but your naivety is showing.

Those markings and a buck won't even get you a cup of coffee. Markings mean little in China.

--sp (old China hand)

p.s. here is an ebay guide on spotting fake Sony batteries. If you send the packaging photos to Sony for verification and they report the batteries are genuine, then I will believe it.

As you can seem, the fakes are really quite good, including holograms. You may not care that they are fake, but if they leak and damage your device, you may care. More likely they'll just not last as long as the genuine cells.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

They are not cells, they are batteries.

I'm a retired EE from NBS (now NIST). They pass the tests that I care to apply. Voltage under load, physical inspection. I'll post back in >5 years to test my naiveté.

Chris

Okay, then not the 3V CR2032 Li button single cells we were talking about. What manner of battery or cell are they?

Cool. Does the nominal voltage agree with them being Magnanese Dioxide Lithium chemistry (or whatever they are supposed to be)? AFAIUI, some of the fake primary lithium cells are actually alkaline.

If they were Panasonic CR2032s they should have just under 3.0V voltage at 20°C with a 15K load:

If you put a resistor across one and noted the voltage on a daily basis it would only take a month or two, and you'd have a nice curve.

Well, unless you misspoke, if the batteries are marked "Sony" on the card, and stamped "Matsushita" individually, they are as fake as they come. As of a few years ago, Matsushita is now called Panasonic worldwide, a completely different company from ('to') Sony. The Matsushita name has been retired.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

Particularly since Matsushita Electric is now called *Panasonic* not Sony. ;-)