Re: OT: consuming dark chocolate linked to reduced risk of type 2 diabetes?

Dec 10, 2024 Last reply: 1 year ago 19 Replies


Eating dark chocolate linked with reduced risk of type 2 diabetes


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Source:
> Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
> Summary:
> Consuming dark, but not milk, chocolate may be associated with lower risk of
> developing type 2 diabetes (T2D), according to a new study.

That is probably because there is comparatively little sugar in >70% cocoa solids dark chocolate and mostly expensive natural cocoa butter.


It is far more likely that consuming the other cheap and nasty stuff full of dodgy fats and loads of sugar is *causing* type 2 diabetes.


I like chocolate up to 85% cocoa solids and I have tasted 90%, 95% and


100% which are all too bitter for my palate. One of the Xmas lectures was on chocolate a few years back. Best high quality chocolate in the world includes Swiss, Portuguese, Belgian and Japanese.

We also had US Hershey bar available to taste - the world's only vomit flavoured "chocolate" (doesn't meet EU regulations to be chocolate).


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There may be more going on. Dark chocolate does seem to be an anti-depressant.

I'm fine with 90% and 95% cocoa solids. The 99% we can get here is fine too, but more expensive in the local shops so I don't bother.

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You would if you had. I try it again about once a decade to see if it is really as bad as I remember it. Some things like durian fruit and natto smell terrible but taste delicious (at least if you like strong tastes like very blue cheese). Hershey bars smell bad and taste even worse.

It used to be only available on US airbases in the UK until recently. Now one of the supermarkets, Morrisons has it on the shelves. Doesn't really sell to anyone apart from to homesick US expats.

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My favourite in that line of correlation vs causation is length of name vs faintness for asteroids.

Early ones got Greek and Roman Gods names Iris, Juno, Ceres, Vesta etc.

More recently they are numbered and then named for famous(ish) people:

2675 Tolkien (unusually short)

4015 Wilson–Harrington (unusually long for a low numbered one)

50719 Elizabethgriffin

Increasingly they just have discovery numbers and a set of orbital elements saved just in case someone wants to observe them again.

Finding Earth orbit crossing ones has become something of a growth industry lately since they could pose an existential threat to us.

The Hershey Special Dark bars are OK in an emergency, like stranded in a life raft or a prison cell.

I won't forgive Hershey for buying Joseph Schmidt Confections and killing it.

Cadbury is mostly inedible. As is Dove.

The vomit taste of Hershey bars used to be from the sour milk formula.

My Hebridean crofter ancestors (Nicolson of Skye) used to prefer drinking sour milk, and a lot of butter used to be made from sour cream. (That’s why the modern stuff says “sweet cream butter” on the package.)

Cadbury and Co. licensed their name to Mars or somebody, who aggressively pursue anyone selling the real stuff.

Ritter Sport, you can still get, and it’s better than Cadbury or Tobler anyway.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Maybe... but I'd have to think carefully about it.

Cadbury was better before it was taken over and ruined by Kraft. I think to a large extent people think chocolate is whatever they grew up with.

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Dove is a soap brand in the UK
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I wouldn't dream of eating it as chocolate.

I presume like Kenwood Hifi (foodmixers only in UK) the branding is very different in the USA. I don't recall noticing Dove chocolate there.

The dark Ritters are excellent.

My company has a direct account with Lundt, which is about half the price of retail.

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I will buy engineers any stimulants that are arguably legal.

No. I have a craving for pastry and chocolates. Before, while being "pre" and after.

In fact, eating sugarless variants left me hungry and wanted more.

The same brand of chocolate can have very different tastes according to where it is bought. The formulation is adjusted according to the preferences of each market. I once visited a professor at City University of New York who collected chocolate from various parts of the world. I was able to try a few samples and confirmed that this was true. The USA version of some well known brand (which I forget) was much sweeter than the UK version. John

Dove is a soap here as well. Favored by some (mostly women) with dry skin, far too greasy for me.

Kenwood Hifi foodmixers look a lot like KitchenAid in the US:

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Maybe they both come from the same factory.

Joe Gwinn

So that means if I eat a lot of these I'll never become diabetic? :-)

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I just bought a box. Delicious!

And yeah, this being the nanny state of California I had to show my driver's license before they'd sell me the box.

The Dove chocolate tastes greasy too.

I use Ivory soap, because it's actually soap.

Last night Mo and I were feeling especially wild, so we split a beer.

It is definitely the sort of thing that you should try once.

I enjoyed durian fruit but people sat near me afterwards didn't, and I developed quite a taste for natto when I lived in Japan. (think baked beans and evo-stick mixed in equal measure smelling of dustbin).

The only "delicacy" I encountered in Japan that I ate to win the bet but would not want to repeat was a local Bombay duck type fermented dried rubbery fish thing on the Ise Peninsular. I forget its name now.

Last week it was cancer.

My favorite was 'rancid pepper oil causing prostate cancer'

Someone must have cornered the market on pepper grinders, before putting that one out.

RL

Am 11.12.24 um 11:59 schrieb Martin Brown:

An Indonesian-Chinese friend once told me that it is forbidden to carry durian in public transportation in Singapore. The taste of it was ok, the smell not so.

cheers, Gerhard

Bummer. That was one of my favorite ingredients.

. . . and was the big tell in the news story. It's not a commodity that's measurable, nor is there any possibility of statistically valid control groups.

I've always wondered how it got past the broadcaster's stink test. CBC

RL

You answered your own question!

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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