> > >
> > > > [...]
> > > > > There was no perjury. =EF=BF=3D3FCheck the record. =EF=BF=3D3FPerj=
ury requires that the
> > > > subject being lied about be germane. =EF=BF=3D3FThe topic on which=
he lied was
> > > > not.
>
> > > > > Question: =EF=BF=3D3FWho old are you
> > > > > lie from woman: =EF=BF=3D3F29
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> > > > > If the true age was not germane to the case this is not perjury.
>
> > > > > The BJ was a BJ which made all those who weren't getting any very =
mad.
> > > > Don't you also have to be under Oath to commit purjury?
>
> > > Not really. =C2 If you walk into a court room and say it and it is
> > > germane that is enough. =C2 The same applies to testifying to congress=
> > > etc. =C2 The holding the hand up stuff is really ritual.- Hide quoted =
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> > I don't follow that.
> > I'm not a lawyer, but I am beyond reasonably CERTAIN you must be under
> > oath in order to commit perjury.
>
> Nope. For example, it can be perjury to lie on a government form,
> such as a driver's license application.
But that's usually "sworn testimony" under the various state laws. That's why you have to sign, under the section that says "I swear this is all true...under penalty of perjury."
> Otherwise, it's just lying. This is
> > a separate issue from the question of whether or not such statements
> > (under oath) are germane.
Correct. Lying in court is perfectly fine if you're not sworn. Which is why they swear witnesses.
Lawyers are already considered sworn officers of the Court, entrusted with policing and ensuring fair play on Its behalf, and are bound by that oath and codes of ethical conduct that prevent them from engaging in trickery, dishonesty, or deceit before the Court. Theoretically, anyway.
Our system & the Court assumes and relies on their honesty and forthrightness. That's why it's especially offensive for a lawyer to commit perjury.
> (under oath + germane + intention to deceive) =3D perjury.
> > Omit any one, and it's not perjury.
>
> --
> Keith
Cheers, James Arthur