Re: My Vintage Dream PC

So you think that it should be impossible to boot a computer at all if the network connection is not working? This does not seem like a good idea to me.

-- Patrick

Depends on your environment -- if all the user files are on an NFS server, it really doesn't matter if a machine can boot without the network, it's useless anyway.

Maybe, after it's booted, you can troubleshoot the network connections.

John

Special cases will result in special procedures.

Plonk

I'm not. I've even stopped trying to think of a way to use his inane posts as a teaching opportunity. (A game I play to amuse myself.)

I was using his post to try to turn the snot into something useful. I also wanted to see if it was still possible to the exercise on today's gear. Apparently, none of those kiddies had enough curiosity to try it.

/BAH

I've got nine inches of "kiddie" to go up in your ass with, ditz.

In commercial VCSs there are releases, patches to them etc. No need to handle that manually, I hope that the VCS is self hosted at its manufacturer ;)

--Kim

incorrect.

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I did not say that it was required, i said the a working network connection would solve the wrong time entry at IPL time real easy. Besides, how do most of the users talk to the "big iron" other than the net these days?

And you trust your entire code base to this?

John

Absolutely. Non-commercial VCSs do this, too.

It depends on the "big iron's" job. Some are isolated on no network or a LAN that is isolated from the internet on purpose as a security measure.

The previous point was that sometimes that date and time are set incorrectly and that fouls up CPU voting to determine which is correct. While starting NTP automatically at boot reduces the chance of that happening it doesn't prevent it altogether.

-- Patrick

Recursive insanity. No wonder we live in the Dark Ages of computing.

John

Oh, there are code "bugs", but I'd call them blunders or just plain negligence on the part of the code writer.

The operative word here, of course, being "should". :-)

Cheers! Rich

Just a matter of using the computer to do the things it does better than people (ie, bookkeeping)

It's more like wanting a computer to automate things that the programmers don't want to be bothered with (ie, discipline and responsibility.)

John

You do know that the C compiler is actually written in C, don't you?

Why shouldn't a version control system be used to manage itself, once it is past the bootstrap stage?

I'd have no problem using CVS to host the CVS source base (although many may prefer SVN instead).

I've code from the 80's still under RCS/CVS control and have no problem accessing it twenty years later.

scott

If you can't do it on paper[1], you can't do it on a computer! ;-)

Cheers! Rich [1] given an arbitrary amount of time, of course. :-)

"Discipline, comrades, iron discipline!" -- George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Or, "Who's responsible for this disaster?" -- Almost Everybody

Cheers! Rich