Re: Interfacing to parallel port dongle via USB adapter

I have software (PADS Layout) that requires a parallel port dongle, and it

> works fine on my present (fairly old) computer, which has a native parallel > port. But newer computers, particularly laptops, do not have these legacy > ports and instead use USB to Parallel (or USB to Serial) converters. They > generally work well for printers, but I have heard that they do not work > for dongles. The usual solution is to obtain a USB dongle from the software > vendor
formatting link
but they require the user to be on "maintenance" > in order to get a USB dongle, and they impose outrageous penalties and > payment of back (unused) support in order to be reinstated.

Newer DESKTOP computers, to my amazement, often still have parallel ports.

My department is upgrading computers this month - the lease is up for our current computers - and the newer, 2GB HP machines have... a parallel port! I expressed my amazement to the IT staff, and they looked at me like I was on drugs...

True, to save space, newer laptops likely won't have them.

Any particular reason you can't maintain an older machine to run "legacy" applications? Sounds cheaper.

Michael

Reply to
mrdarrett
Loading thread data ...

The bridge chips on main boards almost all support LPT. Sometimes there is a pin header or at least the empty position for one. On my latest Dell there ain't. The bridge chip supports LPT and all other legacy stuff but they took LPT out of the layout. They even removed the 2nd floppy support from the BIOS :-(

Harumph. Grumble.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Reply to
Joerg

So why did you buy Dell?

...Jim Thompson

--
|  James E.Thompson, P.E.                           |    mens     |
|  Analog Innovations, Inc.                         |     et      |
 Click to see the full signature
Reply to
Jim Thompson

Because they have been good to me and most of the other name brands didn't have legacy ports either. Before the purchase I found out that they use a particular Foxconn MoBo in there and that had all the header positions. Turns out Foxconn made a slightly modified one for them, taking all those out :-(

Another reason was because the Dell business section offered XP. Vista is not acceptable to me. Anyhow, you can order this particular PC with LPT if you wanted to. I guess then they stick a PCI card in there, which I can always do later.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Reply to
Joerg

On a sunny day (Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:09:20 -0700) it happened Jim Thompson wrote in :

Dell came out in Germany as having by far the best support (if it is kaput) I found out today (German user experiences with notebook service):

formatting link
Asus came out the worst with recommendation they do something else for a while...

Reply to
Jan Panteltje

I don't buy "name brand" PC's. My local PC Club churns out anything I want... cheaply. I also don't buy Intel, I buy AMD. AMD processors run circles around Intel chips when it comes to simulators. I also bought a bunch of batch of XP for future use... just in case I can't get it, though it looks like demand will keep XP there, at least for awhile.

...Jim Thompson

--
|  James E.Thompson, P.E.                           |    mens     |
|  Analog Innovations, Inc.                         |     et      |
 Click to see the full signature
Reply to
Jim Thompson

found out

while...

Dell's support is good but you have to be able to understand English with a thick Indian accent. Not a huge problem for Americans but it can become a challenge for others.

Just one example: A note inside the box and also the MoBo specs state a dual-monitor setup but the mentioned adapter wasn't there. Called Dell, they said that the adapter for that only exists for setups with a 2nd graphics card. There would only be a splitter for displaying the same image on two monitors but as a paid accessory. They then sent me that splitter for free and despite me saying that this isn't at all urgent they insisted on super-fast courier shipment. On the house ...

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Reply to
Joerg

parallel

software

My experience with wrench shop PCs isn't that great. And yeah, AMD chips are good for math intense stuff but nowadays the processor isn't the pacing item in a PC. This one has an Intel dual core and it's faster than I'll ever need. Also, my real simulator is a DSO and a Weller :-)

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Reply to
Joerg

it

parallel

software

I, and a number of lurkers here, have run benchmarks of simulators on Intel vs AMD. AMD is generally 2X faster.

And, knock on wood, my "wrench shop" PC's outlast the steps in technology. Actually all I've _ever_ had fail over the years is hard drives.

...Jim Thompson

--
|  James E.Thompson, P.E.                           |    mens     |
|  Analog Innovations, Inc.                         |     et      |
 Click to see the full signature
Reply to
Jim Thompson

it

parallel

legacy

They

software

"maintenance"

I have noticed it as well since the laptop I usually take on the road has an AMD. OTOH my sims aren't anywhere close to the big ones you most likely do a lot so processor horsepower isn't all that important. Plus I use two PCs in the office so if one has to do lengthy sims I just use the other for CAD or Word. That's where the little file server comes in handy because I can access all docs from either PC.

Didn't you have a RAM reliability problem a while ago? As for technology I often use PCs a decade or longer. Steps in technology are not always forward steps. As evidenced in the latest, ahem, "new and improved" OS developments ;-)

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Reply to
Joerg

formatting link
makes a nice PCI dual parallel port board. I used an older version on the computers used at the work stations to program the various VME boards for the Microdyne RBC and DCR models. We had a single port in all the crappy Gateways that were passed down from the secretaries and purchasing, but we needed two different ISP cables. A few benches had a Needham's EMP20 EPROM programmer, as well. The extra ports saved a half hour a day, per bench by not having to move the computers and change cables. You could plug both cables into boards, apply power and install firmware.

I found a SIIG card in a donated XP computer recently, and thought it was kind of funny in these days of almost everything being USB, that the computer would have three printer ports.

--
aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists

Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file
 Click to see the full signature
Reply to
Michael A. Terrell

Don't know quite why, but it was mixed size strips that was the problem.

I was told it was OK to use mixed sizes, providing Strip1 matches Strip2 and Strip3 matches Strip4. 'Tain't so :-(

...Jim Thompson

--
|  James E.Thompson, P.E.                           |    mens     |
|  Analog Innovations, Inc.                         |     et      |
 Click to see the full signature
Reply to
Jim Thompson

I've done mixed sizes in a Dell laptop once and it worked fine. A PC is supposed to let you know when it doesn't like that. Maybe you should have bought a brand name PC after all ...

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Reply to
Joerg

You are well-known for your cheapness. Want to compare what I paid versus what you paid ?:-)

...Jim Thompson

--
|  James E.Thompson, P.E.                           |    mens     |
|  Analog Innovations, Inc.                         |     et      |
 Click to see the full signature
Reply to
Jim Thompson

AFAIR the Dell desktop was around $550, with Dual-Core and 2GB RAM, _with_ warranty, remote diagnostics and all that. Keyboard and mouse came with it but sans monitor. The 24h helpline really does work.

I think nowadays they even have one with similar processor and less RAM for $299 but that's probably from their consumer group. No idea what level of support that would include.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Reply to
Joerg

You need "support" to _run_ a PC... from someone who can't speak English ?:-) (I've called Dell "support" for my father. It's from the Philippines... and the "English" is incomprehensible.)

My last AMD Athlon 64 (3400+) with dual-monitor video, 2GB RAM and

150GB HD was ~$600. And 1 year warranty.

_If_ I needed help, it's just down the street ;-)

...Jim Thompson

--
|  James E.Thompson, P.E.                           |    mens     |
|  Analog Innovations, Inc.                         |     et      |
 Click to see the full signature
Reply to
Jim Thompson

It was during configuration where I often have to do some weird stuff. Like starting scans via a command that comes in on the LAN. Most PCs initially do not like that.

The support was actually pretty good but the accent was definitely Hindi.

That can work very well if they have the know-how. But not at 10:00pm I guess.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Reply to
Joerg

^^ Microsoft OS There. Fixed that for you.

At the same time that M$ is trying to push mostly-unfinished crap, you have to get out your machete to get thru all the glowing reviews that follow the releases of OS X and Ubuntu versions.

...and WRT Dell (I note Jan Panteltje's post): They are the closest thing I see to the Mom & Pop shops when it comes to giving the customer what he wants. (You've already mentioned the Ships-with-XP option.)

They also have several business Linux options (software support thru 3rd parties) and there is a pre-installed Ubuntu option for individuals. Their Ubuntu rollout wasn't spectacular because of a plain vanilla install

formatting link

--without even a simple script included/enabled

formatting link
...and, of course, all the bitching was due to *software patents* and the things those screw up.
formatting link
formatting link

The fact that Dell ships pre-installed Linux of *any* flavor, however, means that all the hardware has Linux device drivers so, if you don't like Dell's install or choice of distro, you can just install *your* favorite (without rebooting 42 times).

I'm wondering what JT is going to do with all those copies of XP when M$ decides to shut down their XP activation servers to try to extort everyone yet again and force purchases of the latest version of their crapware. . . If you surf with JavaScript disabled, just insert &no_d2=1 into any Slashdot URLs.

Reply to
JeffM

Yes, they have the feel of a mom&pop shop and I like that. Heck, they even offer to remove the loboto-ware and nagware off of the PC.

formatting link

formatting link

formatting link

formatting link

No idea what it is with those servers. I bought three PCs with XP so far and fully configured them without any registration in Redmond. I just keep the license stickers in the respective manila folders like usual. My old rule is to configure PCs with the LAN cable unplugged. Always. Oh, and no auto-updates or any of that. Except for anti-virus software, of course, but that isn't from Microsoft.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Reply to
Joerg

it

parallel

software

Bullshit. Intel surpassed AMD with their last iteration of CPUs, and for math, the CELL CPU included in IBM cell blades and the PS3 computer will run circles around ANY PC on the planet! By nearly a factor of ten!

You want fast simulations? Run it on a PS3 or a PS3 cluster.

Reply to
Hattori Hanzo

ElectronDepot website is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here. All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.