Re: Evil Designers Guide to Copying Patents

As long as you're going to be engaging in fraud, why bother with patents? Wouldn't, say, banking be easier?

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We should rename this guy Stretch. He has to stttrrreeettttccccchhhhhhhhh his arguments to unbelieveable proportions to try to look knowledgeable. If anyone disagrees with him, they must all be friends plotting to make him look bad. A conspiracy to topple some unknown, untalented know-nothing zero.

And ALWAYS has to have the last post over ANYONE, no matter how dumb he continues to look.

Are we impressed? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha!

On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:28:43 +0100, " snipped-for-privacy@jensen.tdcadsl.dk" Gave us:

You're both f****ng retarded.

The law doesn't fall for tricks like that. All you're doing is adding criminal conspiracy to what was a civil matter.

John

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The law first have to *prove in court* that you set up the business explicitly to defraud!

A completely different proposisiton than tax evasion, where you have to prove innocense.

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Jury. You point? It's pretty much the same with any other criminal activity.

OK, so you hire agents, probably lawyers, in 5 countries. Get visas and plane tickets to the outside four. Fly a lot, sign a lot of stuff, pay a bunch of fees, and pay ongoing retainers and corporate license fees and accounting fees in 5 places. Manufacture and sell the stuff in violation of some patent, shuffle the money around, losing a commission at every step. Hope the Feds, especially Homeland Security, don't notice the transactions (maybe smuggle the money around in sailboats? Now you need a fleet of sailboats, with honest crews.) Hope that none of your foreign "partners" decide to squeeze you. All so you can copy something instead of designing it yourself.

Sounds great.

John

It is doable. However the Chinese have the best system - just pay off the local cops and sneak the crap into the USA.

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The judge is the one who can throw it out of court before a jury is even called. The point being, everything not explicitly forbidden is permissible.

Ahhh..but I have an entertaining idea to put sex into the show..The engineers constantly try to get the women in all sorts of clever and amusing ways but don't succeed.. That'll be believable.

Here goes... Episode 1 of IPI Tubbs gets captured by a Taiwan IP theft boss and is forced to eat transistors until Crocket agrees not to expose the counterfeit Ipods shipping to the US.

Episode 2: Tubbs and Crocket get hired by Bill Gates to track down Vista copiers. Car chases and exploding computers!! Unknown is Bill Gates true intent.

Episode 3: Tubbs goes for Crockets sister but she can't stand hearing about ASIC's and uC code protection.

Episode 4: Crocket gets trapped in an air duct while sneaking into AMD. Intel denies any involvement. D from BC

--- But, you seem to forget that patent infringement and copyright violation _are_ explicitly forbidden. By law.

And, more importantly, by ethics, since what isn't yours isn't yours to use as you see fit.

I don't understand why that's such a difficult concept to come to terms with, since if someone took something of yours that was valuable, without your permission, and sold it for their own gain without even giving you credit for it, I'd expect that you'd be unhappy with that.

Wouldn't you be?

-- JF

You well know it's not as simple as that. All copyrights and patents get you is entry to the court, providing you have enough money.

There's no such thing in business. The rules are written down and interpreted by the courts. That's the beginning and end of it.

Yes. So?

Dirk

Businesses are run by people, and all people have their own ethics. IBM has a history of ethical behavior (and good products), and Microsoft has a history of dishonesty and ruthlessness (and crap.)

Not here.

John

Like you say, we all have our personal ethics. But that's not what runs our societies.

In many countries, copyright is enforced by the state while patents are left to private lawsuits. Beats me why.

Copyright infringement can be a criminal violation is some cases. The US code includes both.

Certainly there is, just as there is in personal life.

Law ethics. One hopes there is some commonality though.

I disagree. Unfortunately more and more are on your side, as evidenced here.

Consider my attitude to be pre-emptive cynicism. You are remarkably optimistic (if you're an American) despite living in a lawyer society.

In a multicultural society there are by definition many different ethics, and hence the lawyers. Compare Japan.

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:49:47 -0700, John Larkin Gave us:

And you have a history od spewing horseshit and bullshit.