Re: conservation of Euros

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Yes, I know. But most of the time it's not worth the hassle. I (and my clients) tend to just order the whole chebang of parts in one fell swoop, from one place, and be done with it. Saving five bucks on a prototype somehow does not justify spending engineering time on it.

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You didn't see this coming? What has changed since Grayout Davis?

The value added tax will be the same on the imported car and the domestic car. It'll even the playing field more and making domestic production more profitable. THis argument is one *for* the "fair tax" (NOT the VAT).

There have been some that seem to have kept it together:

But it's very few, and some of them initially make promises like "only running for x terms" and once they got into business as usual chucked those promises. Because promises don't seem to mean much there.

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They are. My nephew has worked for Honda in Columbus OH for 20+ years.

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It's kind of tough to live out of state while running a business :-)

Besides, we are quite firmly entrenched in community, church and volunteering out here. Especially my wife, if she left with me that would cause a lot of sadness in some assisted living places around here.

Now you changed the subject. This was about that there'd be a clean shift, exchanging income taxes of workers for a consumption tax, and that such would cause dropping prices accordingly. My point is that it is not revenue-neutral, not by a longshot, and in most cases would not drop prices accordingly. To John Q.Public a so-called "fair tax" and a VAT are the same thing, he simply has to pay 23% more for stuff and will be mighty miffed if he's a retiree.

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No one in their right mind would call someone an engineer if they had never worked in that field. BTW, you are a very poor troll.

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From what I'd heard, Jimmy Carter never finished the Nuclear engineer course because he had to resign his Naval Commission after six years, to return to his family farm to run the business. The only degree he had was in mathematics.

I haven't owned a foreign branded vehicle since 1984.

That was _exactly_ the cause. It was a joint GM/Toyota venture. Toyota refused to unionize.

I admit to a failing... I once owned an LTD ('77) :-) ...Jim Thompson

not.

His bios say that he received a Bachellor of Science at the Naval Academy. They don't say what sort of science. As far as a nuke engineer (from

"Carter completed an introductory course in nuclear reactor power at Union College starting in March 1953."

He did complete training as a diesel sub commander, but never served on a nuke. A hint of that is that he was discharged from the Navy in 1953 and bottle wasn't broken on the Nautilus' snout until 1954. So much for the yellow booties.

Now they are at it again:

I've heard rumors that they got a sweet special deal on equipment sales tax. Maybe they don't have to pay any. A deal which, of course, us little guys do not get :-(

That's the dad of the Crown Victoria, pretty good cars. AFAIK a lot of those were already built in Canada.

The Chinese bought more than 1,000,000 GM cars last year, so some folks are attracted by their design, value proposition, and quality control.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

They were trying to prop up USG Motors.

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indignities of the

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'profit' to pay

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there's a delay

in price

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for

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Businesses can be run from just about anywhere.

So it's not about selling your house. ;-)

No, in reality I was trying to bring it back to what it was, the fair tax. I'm not convinced about it and discussions help.

He won't pay income tax or employment (SS) tax and neither will the corporations paying him and selling him his stuff.

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Tax people

price.

savings (that

indignities of the

it).

have left

with embedded

$0.23 Fair Tax)

power.

'profit' to pay

but I

there's a delay

in price

the US is

because

percent

one iota

the labor

miniscule.

expensive and

for

that'll

wage,

delta

whatever,

same

other

car.

Most retirees already have houses, furniture, pots and pans, so won't pay a huge amount of sales tax. Basic survival stuff could be exempted. And a lot of retirees have taxable income, which taxes will go away.

No change is going to please everybody.

The nice thing about a sales tax is that you can elect to not buy stuff and not pay the tax.

John

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do not.

I think so. That's why he only completed the first course of the graduate Nuke-E program.

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Tax people

price.

savings (that

indignities of the

it).

have left

with embedded

$0.23 Fair Tax)

power.

'profit' to pay

drop, but I

there's a delay

in price

the US is

because

percent

one iota

the labor

miniscule.

expensive and

for

that'll

wage,

delta

whatever,

same

other

here:

car.

A lot of people downsize their homes after they retire. That money (capital gains) is currently not taxed but will be under the "fair" tax.

Penalizing those who have played the game according to the rules is not "fair". It's no better than what Obummer is doing to business.

Not under the "Fair Tax". *Everything* is taxed, even homes. AIUI, only new houses have the tax charged, but the cost difference between new and old has to equalize.

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Tax people

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indignities of the

allows it).

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purchasing power.

'profit' to pay

drop, but I

there's a delay

fall in price

the US is

because

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that'll

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whatever,

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make

plant

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car.

I don't know about a "fair" tax. What I suggest is a sales tax, a tax on consumption. It could easily exempt capital gains, which isn't sales or consumption.

So tune it.

John