If they think it worthwhile to give Amazon tax breaks (which actually cost the people of New York nothing), why wouldn't they give the same tax breaks to all other businesses?
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
Because the politicians are fools who are competing with other fools who are all rushing to undermine their local businesses by providing what will eventually be essentially a monopoly on retail sales.
The future does not have mom & pop stores folks, just giant warehouses selling foreign crap that doesn't meet local/national electrical, safety, or health standards.
This is going to end badly.
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Amazon is doing to things what the internet did to encyclopedias and dictionaries and data books and magazines. And book stores. It's probably inevitable progress. Amazon saves a lot of driving and parking too.
We still need the stores for beer and ice cream sandwiches. I still go to Safeway once a week.
Government can level the playing field some by giving local businesses some of the giant breaks they give to Amazon and BMW and movie makers. The "investment" per job might well be less.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
How much did you give to your local politicians? How much did Amazon give to them? Ahh, that makes it pretty obvious, I think.
Jon
Sure, but the investment per politician would suffer...can't do without that kickback, errr, lobbyist money!
Amazon and BMW and movie makers turn over enough money that they can afford to support full-time lobbyists in Washington, and the major state captials . It's the lobbying effort that pays off in giant tax breaks. "Levelling th e playing field" would start off with hanging all the lobbyist, or at least exiling them from the centres of power and locking them into internment ca mps without communications facilities.
Other countries don't have the problem to the same extent, so a root-and-br anch re-write of the US constitution might help, but too many Americans hav e been brain-washed into thinking that the US constitution is totally perfe ct just the way it is - James Arthur is a pathological example.
The investment that is going on is by the lobbying firms in getting the mor e easily influenced politicians re-elected. The "jobs" involved are in Wash ington and the state capitals.
-- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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rd to support full-time lobbyists in Washington, and the major state captia ls. It's the lobbying effort that pays off in giant tax breaks. "Levelling the playing field" would start off with hanging all the lobbyist, or at lea st exiling them from the centres of power and locking them into internment camps without communications facilities.
if you send a letter to a politician to complain or advocate for something you are also a lobbyist. you want to ban talking to politicians?
Voice talk is oke, mony/bribary talk is not.
Now guess which system is used the most???
When a state gives a company big tax breaks to move in and create jobs, the "bribery" is mostly not cash, but bragging rights for the politicians who made the deal. That's as good as cash.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
One word: kickbacks.
These were very public competitions. I doubt any money directly changed hands. But votes well might.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
Hilarious that liberals have been saying tax breaks for large companies are taxpayer-funded subsidies for the better part of forever and for just as long Republicans have been saying "no they aren't the Treasury didn't cut them a check directly."
Then Democrats do exactly the same thing Republican administrations do all the time and Fox spins it like oh now it's actually a subsidy and taxpayers are indeed footing the bill for something.
Must be weird having no concept of history and just saying whatever is most suitable at the time for the desired effect (usually getting the Republican base MAD!!!!) It's black, it's white, it's up, it's down, whatever works. Donald Trump somehow seems to manage okay I guess.
The best business to be in is the tell-Republicans-exactly-what-they-want-to-hear business. You'll never need a subsidy or tax incentive or whatever you want to call it. Wallets will open continually as if by magic. you will NOT go hungry.
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g you are also a lobbyist. You want to ban talking to politicians?
The classic American lobbyist is somebody who lives in Washington and spend s all his time cultivating politicians so he knows who to talk to when some body with a enough money to hire a lobbyist wants something to happen.
Contacting a politician to advocate something that is of importance to you wasn't what I was objecting.
The "lobby" in question is the space the politicians pass through on their way to their offices or the legislative chamber, and if you make a habit of being there representing one or a variety of clients you are a lobbyist.
If you only push your particular agenda nobody is going to get upset. If yo u are paid to push Google and Amazon's interests, there's a problem.
-- Bill Sloman, Sydney
That's silly and tribal. If that were so, everybody could get rich easily.
Try it yourself and see how soon you are wealthy.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics
I can't, fortunately the majority of people have a sense of shame/or want to be able to look at themselves in the mirror in the morning and call themselves a man, depending. It's more valuable an experience than money.
Gotta defend that Manly Honor at any cost.
Do you look in the mirror a lot and call yourself a Man?
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
Firstly, 'give ... tax breaks' means unequal treatment under the law, and is a violation of principles. Secondly, it may be that the break directly costs nothing, but Amazon will use infrastructure (roads, police, fire stations etc.) that must be paid for ... by 'other', local, businesses and the people of NY. Local taxes support local services, and are paid for by (nominally nondiscriminatory) fees and taxes.
'Giving' tax breaks means distributing privileges. Like the famous 'license to steal', the concept is disturbing and corrupt. Recall, historically the granting of indulgences was a major driver of the Protestant reformation; it's just WRONG.
There are only a limited number of Republicans who can read, so the market isn't large.
Some people do have some self-respect. Pandering is a long-established profession, but not a high-status one.
-- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Not as often as The Donald likely does but I think it's a good idea to do an honest evaluation once in a while, sure.
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