Re: Buy land and ice on Mars

Newton was pre-QM and 400 years ago. If we don't destroy ourselves first, I think we'll eventually find a way to colonise planets outside of our solar system. But that will be a long, long tme away.

Action=reaction will continue to rule, and QM won't change a thing there. Even so, I agree we're likely to colonize other planets eventually, though not by sending lots of people there.

As for planets /outside/ our solar system, those are yet a few more orders of magnitude harder to reach.

Jeroen Belleman

The thing is, we have unidentified objects in our skys that don't obey the edicts of Newtonian physics. Clearly someone somewhere has the capability of making what we believe is impossible trivial. That would suggest interplanetary travel in realistic transit times is already being carried out and has been for a very long time.

But you haven't identified one, and to the best of my knowledge, nobody else has either. Dark matter has mass so it is expected conform to Newtonian physics when it isn't moving at relativistic speeds.

Twaddle.

Only if you can't do joined up logic, and are addicted to fatuous nonsense.

I cannot believe such claims. Stated as you do, it conflicts with my knowledge of physics and therefore I must reject it.

Jeroen Belleman

You can believe whatever you wish, of course. I'm simply saying that this phenomenon has been reported by legions of witnesses, many of whom are commercial and military pilots and should therefore know very well whether what they're looking at conforms to our present understanding of physics or not.

You are talking about flying saucers. People report what they think they see, but optical effects aren't solid objects, no matter what they may look like.

This is the kind of fatuous nonsense that you seem to be addicted to, but more rational people don't take it seriously.

If I were to witness some phenomenon apparently defying the laws of physics, I would first doubt my observation, not the laws of physics. Our senses are so easily confused, our equipment could so easily be faulty. It would take a much closer look and repeated reliable observations, using different complementary means, to make me change my mind.

Legions of witnesses --however able they may otherwise be-- of fleeting unidentified phenomena don't cut it.

Jeroen Belleman