push-push on/off switch

What? And what does it do ?:-)

...Jim Thompson

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Cool.

A sort of oscillator?

VLV

I think if you hold in the button, the negative feed back will bias the mosfet half-on (destroying it if load is too heavy).

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John Devereux

Is this an "I can't believe nobody else has thought of that yet" moment?

Thanks, Rich

No, but if someone holds the button long enough it'll be a "Phsssst - pop - crackle - KABLOUIE" moment.

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It works as a dimmer, too.

It's interesting to play with.

John

Why would it oscillate? No, it's a push-push on/off switch.

John

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Bwahahahahaha!

...Jim Thompson

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--- Not according to LTSPICE:

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Or maybe I picked the wrong parts. Got some values that work?

-- JF

My sincere apologies to LTSPICE, but it does work.

Try, say, 1M and 0.47 uF.

John

Yep, It will work for optimal button-press times. Then it will leak one way or 'nother ;-)

It's fun that it works, but otherwise useless.

...Jim Thompson

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Does everything that's fun have to be useful?

John

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Tried it, it didn\'t work, and what about that floating gate when the
switch opens? (Yuck...)

Or maybe I\'m misinterpreting your drawing.

I see a normally-open momentary switch, an N-channel enhancement
mode MOSFET, and an R and a C. 

Am I missing something?

No. But a stable-state switch would be more interesting.

...Jim Thompson

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Fry when it eventually drifts into the linear region?

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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Your sketch, for the permanent record,

,---/\\/\\----+----o LOAD o-- +V | | | |--' | ___ ||>>> A sort of oscillator?

A 0.5-s time constant. Should work with most modest pushbutton presses. My experiments show modern power MOSFETs can hold their gate voltage for days, if not weeks. But surely you remember out long-running thread that completed the simple circuit with a 2nd transistor making a flip flop.

The problem is that there is NO stable state to start from. A true F-F is the only way to go.

...Jim Thompson

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