The main problem Bill is up against here is that he can't get away with spouting his Marxist claptrap unchallenged, because there are folks here (no names mentioned :)) who are so much better informed when it comes to political science and have read *way* more books on politics and philosophy than he ever has. If he were addressing a bunch of high school kids, he'd probably come across to them as very authoritative, erudite and worldly wise. But that's only on account of high school kids being callow, credulous and ideologically-speaking, "empty vessels" ripe for someone like him to come along and brainwash with easy and superficially attractive solutions. Unlike us, young people have not yet learned the art of critical thinking (and perhaps never will) and consequently represent easy pickings for Bill and his ilk. That in itself is a damn good reason for NOT lowering the voting age, which the hard Left opposition in Britain are clinging to as their only chance of getting themselves elected.