[OT] I'm Available for Work

I use Supernews and see very little spam. The main junk is endless, off-topic, ritual flame wars by the usual few idiots. I just ignore them.

You are right. The increase in supply made the price go down or at least kept the price from going up.

Dan

Yep. But, too-frequent adversising of goods or services would constitute spam, under any version of Usenet rules/etiquette I've encountered.

There usually was no need for a cancel-bot on a newsgroup such as this.

Steve

Sure but without a complete understanding of the original designer's constraints it's difficult to say that yours is simpler. Software may be simpler but IME it's often not, at least according to the programmer who has to do the work. ;-)

...and there is a third dimension.

I agree with this, but I don't know why you blame it on anonymous posters. I see this from a number of the regulars here who do pretty much nothing but argue with insults and foul language. It is the better conversations that are on a 12 year old's level.

I think it is the other way round. It is the drive to find perfect, ultimate solutions that bring people to this profession.

That sounds like a rule.

I would vote for a "try and be polite" rule.

George H.

But don't try too hard. Some of our more dedicated egomaniacs don't notice that they've been disagreed with unless the disagreement is expressed with considerable rhetorical force.

Yes indeed.

I seriously wonder whether some of them have strange mental problems Aspergers? Schizophrenia? Multiple-personality disorder? They certainly behave in a "Jackyl and Hyde" manner.

It discredits /all/ their conversations, and makes it difficult for me bother to read /any/ of their utterances.

I said "/often/ anonymous" - there are certainly some posters who are happy to give their full names, but appear to be heading rapidly for their second childhood. There is also a question of what "anonymous" means - if the same person posts often under the same pseudonym, is he/she/it "anonymous"? I don't want to quibble here - lets agree to blame the people writing rude, insulting or childish posts for writing the rude, insulting or childish posts regardless of their names or lack thereof.

I understand what you mean. I am just trying to figure out why so many regulars in this group appear to have very fixed and simplistic views on many complex issues (outside of electronics). For all the arguments about politics, climate, health, economics, etc., the only real answer is usually "it's a bit more complicated than that". Yet people here will swear blind (literally) that it is all the fault of their pet hate president, or that the problem doesn't exist, or it would go away if guns were banned or if everyone had guns.

Putting aside the people who are only here for the arguments, there are engineers who will consider all possible solutions to an electronics problem, and weigh up the pros and cons before building something. And if someone comes along with another method, they will consider that too and possibly adopt it. Yet give them a question that is outside the field of electronics, and they have a single fixed idea, and are unable to listen, read, think, imagine or consider anything else. Why is that?

(Yes, I know I am being a little harsh here, and exaggerating somewhat to emphasise the contrast. I also know that sometimes at least, I fall into this category too.)

Nicely put. Me too.

I don't think you are being harsh at all. There seem to be a very vocal group here with very inflexible ideas. I'm not certain that doesn't also extend to their work. I have seen any number of technical discussions where any number of alternate approaches were shot down simply because the shooter didn't "like" them rather than any technical reason for them to not work. In fact, it is often clear that the thinking is being done by the other end of the body (as in seat of the pants) rather than doing any further analysis on the problem and solutions. One frequent poster here often says he doesn't like to analyze things mathematically because he isn't good at the math. So clearly some here do not wish to consider potential solutions to technical problems if they aren't comfortable with them already.

So it appears the manner of thinking in their social/political views often parallels their technical thinking. They have done more technical thinking because that has been required by the job, so it appears they make a greater effort to be open minded technically.

If they ban traces beneath a 6 mm chip on an 8 mm board, it will be difficult to route that portion for sure even if it is at the end of the board with nothing other than the antenna. I expect there was other info that contributed to routing problems. An 8 mm wide board is pretty extreme.

Tim,

I was chasing some of the articles you have written and noticed "Sigma-delta techniques extend DAC resolution" is supposed to be in the June 2004 issue while it is really in the July 2004 issue. They aren't making it easy to reach the articles in ESP. If you could fix your web page it would be a help. Just in case you didn't know, the entire archive portion of the embedded.com site has been redone and your direct links to the articles are broken.

As long as they allow unlimited layers, all you need is a few vias (or even half via along the edge) outside the package. Diagonal chip mounting would help as well. This requires some out of the box thinking, but not too difficult.

By no way harsh

I think some of the explanation is due to old age. You don't recognize it yourself, but the older you get the more you stick to your own ideas and wont listen or can't relate

My dad is now in the mid 70'tees. I have seen a big change the last 15 years. He really does not tackle new problems with the same openness as before (he is also an engineer)

I see the same with guys at work, that are 50+/60+. They wont hear of anything new, sticking to the pre century electronics

It's like pushing a pillow, it wont take a hint

Cheers

Klaus

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Repeatedly but they kept saying it would fit and work, so I said NO quote.

So as not able to change package or do any other redesign I did not want to be caught in blame trail etc

Sounds like a tough one. I don't typically do just PCB layout, but I do like a challenge. Wish I could have had a crack at that.