OT: How to replace sliding glass door latch?

It's times like this when I wish I hd a small lathe. Aluminum or brass in the right thickness isn't too expensive for a part that size. The worst thing about those sliding aluminum doors is that you have the remove the bottom piece of aluminum to replace the roller. Some people cut a larger opening, but that makes the door weak.

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Send me an email with what you need. I figure it is a good day when I break even...

My machine tools are a hobby too! BTW, brass scrap is very scarce for me..

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I will when I can get the door down to remove the rollers. I will see if I can find the brass locally for you when I do. :)

I am still healing up from a monitor that dropped from my computer desk onto my lower legs. It's been almost four months, but it is down to a half dozen small wounds on one leg and two on the other. Right now I'm in too much pain to even attempt it, but I appreciate the offer.

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1) It looks like you'll have to remove the locking knob first (the one that engages the slot in the lower part of the locking mechanism. 2) Attach a stiff piece of strong (steel?) wire to an accessible part of the mechanism. The hook looks like a good place. Twist it with pliers so it grabs the mechanism well. This will provide some means to hang onto the mechanism while removing the screws. 3) If it falls in, big deal. You were going to install a new one anyway. Who knows how many broken ones are sitting inside the frame anyway. Its the new one you don't want to drop. 4) It appears that the lock can be rotated and slid out of the frame once unscrewed. Installation is the reverse, including the safety wire. manipulating the new latch and holding it in place can be assisted with a strong magnet.
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I did it in similar fashion on Tuesday, got it out. Found one at Home Depot that fits and sure enough it didn't work. Obviously I need a 45 degree version and this was 90 degrees. Naturally, nothing to that effect was mentioned on the package, just like you can't find proper drawings with dimensions on this stuff. So I'll return it. Found another HW store (Lowes) that says they have the correct kind in store. HD has it online only, didn't carry it in the store.

If anyone finds this thread some day while in a similar pickle: If you have a mortise latch mounted "from behind" chances are that you can use one from the Prime-Line brand. E2013 requires the actuator slot to be vertical in the locked and open position which most doors can't use. Supposedly E2014 is the type that goes 45 degrees left and right. I'll know more this coming Tuesday or Wednesday.

I don't expect this to live too long. The spring in there looks rather flimsy. That's the part that broke on the old one but they are jammed together in a non-servicable manner :-(

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You might want to run this by an actual locksmith shop. They may have a wider range of latches or at least some more knowledgeable people than Home Despot/Loews.

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Maybe, but first I'll check the latch from Lowes. If it fits I'll know which types to get next time, and I can preemptively replace some others and put one away for a "rainy day".

My experience with pro shops is that they often won't sell to the public or insist that someone come out there.

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One? That's just tempting fate.

Not mine, but then I don't live on the 'left' coast.

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Well, yeah, once you know the exact part you need and where to get it I don't see a problem.

Out here some haven't figured out that people then simply go on the web and then it's not just the labor revenue they lose but they lose the parts revenue as well.

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Depending on how much (public) business they can draw, it may not be worth the tax collection bother and pissed off contractors. I've found some of these sorts of businesses will deal with individuals but most won't.

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Don't say you weren't warned when it is no longer made. I have had parts go NLA from the time I identified the part number, to the order being placed at the local dealer.

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The ones that do, usually sell at retail to appease contractors.

When I did commercial sound work one electrical supply house refused to sell to me, so I went to the other, which had just opened. They not only sold to me, but gave me a bigger discount than most electrical contractors because I bought everything by the box, bundle, bag or roll. I could be in and out of there in five minutes, and spent $1000. Some contractors wasted an hour to buy less than $50 in ones or twos.

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These ones seem to be quite widespread after all. But yes, good point, maybe once I know it works I'll replace all of them. $12/door isn't gonna break the bank. Plus sales tax. Which they just raised. Again &%#*@!!.

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I thought they had to have a super-majority to raise taxes. I see they just floated $14B in bonds. I wonder if there are that many suckers.

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They do need a 2/3rd majority, whether its among politicians or voters. Way it seemed to have worked this time: Some water project near Placerville got screwed up, big time. So the water rates would have skyrocketed and the local voters were presented a choice, either higher water rates or higher sales tax. Since out-of-towners must also pay that sales tax they decided to sock it to them. So we get to pay for their screw-up :-(

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Are you in that water district? If not, then they also got you to pay for their screw-up. A tax increase is a tax increase.

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The wastewater treatment plant is only for Placerville residents. And yeah, a tax is a tax is a tax. But something like 75% vote in favor and that's more than 66.6%, so it passed. We are not part of that sewage system but other than groceries that's where we'd go for other stuff. However, people are beginning to pay attention to sales tax rates when buying big ticket items.

On the bright side CA residents also voted that "fees" a.k.a. taxes in a different cloak will now also be subject to the 2/3rds majority rule. Finally!

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I always have. I buy must big ticket items over the Internet. ;-) Our sales tax is 8%, with some cities as much as 10% (perhaps even higher). That and car registration (not so much on our 9 and 10yo cars) are the things they nail us for. The property tax makes up for it, though. ;-)

But your budget only takes 50%. The Demonicrats will spend you into oblivion. They don't care that they can't pay for it.

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So, feedback for anyone in the same pickle:

The latch that worked is a Prime-Line "E 2014". This one is for situations where the control slot sits 45 degrees when at the stops and Lowes had it. "E 2013" is for situations where it's vertical which is probably rare.

I removed the handle and stuck the lower long screw back in as a barrier against the latch falling into the frame. Then I pried out the latching hook with a piece of wire as it would no longer come out on command (reason why I needed a new latch). Removed upper screw, grabbed hook, removed lower screw, slid latch inwards and down a bit, then lifted it out. Put the new latch in, done.

What breaks on those things is the flimsy little spring and you can't get to it. I oiled the new lock really well so it (hopefully) won't corrode out the spring.

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