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mans from moving to get higher paid jobs in West Germany, and Trump's wall is supposed to stop lower-paid Mexicans from getting better paid jobs in th e USA.

in the same way the lock on your front door does the same job as lock on a prison cell

Mexican Wall is likely to be whole lot less effective than the Berlin Wall (if it ever gets built - Trump is being selective about the campaign promi ses on which he delivers, but since he had a habit of contradicting himself during the campaign, this is unavoidable.)

maybe those complaining about Trumps wall should start complaining to the Mexican government why the country such a miserable place to live they all want to leave

Mexican government why the country such a miserable place to live they all want to leave "

Actually I heard many do go back. There are only so many jobs and if they c an't get one they see no reason to be here. And the seasonal jobs, once ove r, they go back. They are only here for the money and that is evaporating. Why should they stay here when their family is down there ?

The situation is not as bad as some people make it out to be. First of all, most of Mexico is not all that bad. There are bad areas, like our Chicago and a few others, but it is not all like that.

Obama never showed incompetence. The problem is he's on the other side. He actually helped the Islamic Brotherhood take power in Egypt. There are other examples, but it's clear he just wanted to act against our interests.

I expect monitoring to be electronic and it isn't hard to make a wall that people lacking special equipment can't scale.

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can't get one they see no reason to be here. And the seasonal jobs, once o ver, they go back. They are only here for the money and that is evaporating . Why should they stay here when their family is down there ?

l, most of Mexico is not all that bad. There are bad areas, like our Chicag o and a few others, but it is not all like that.

Whatever makes the kind of anti-Trump impression that draws Trump supporters out from under the sink. So scuttle back where you came from.

The problem that Tom Del Rosso thinks he perceives.

How did he do that? Was he supposed to send in cruise missiles to target th e Islamic Brotherhood in Egypt? Would it have made a difference if he had?

The problem with right-wing nitwits is that they think that because they ca n perceive problem, there has to be solution that a sufficiently clever rig ht-wing politician could have used to solve the problem.

Dubbya thought that he had a solution to problem presented by Saddam Hussei n. Sadly, the process of getting rid of Saddam encouraged a whole lot of Is lamic extremist to use the same solution, which hasn't actually made the wo rld a better place.

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It's clear to Tom Del Rosso, who doesn't seem to have a particularly sophis ticated idea of what US interests in the Middle East might be. Dubbya conce ntrate his attention on getting access to Middle Eastern oil fields, which didn't work out as well as he had hoped.

Tom del Rosso does have enough sense not to tell us what he thought that Ob ama should have done - claiming that what Obama did didn't promote US inter ests does imply the existence of a better strategy, but it's not a strategy that has been widely publicised, probably because it never existed.

Electronics can be jammed, and ladders aren't wildly "special" equipment.

Tunnels under walls are well known.

Another stupid remark by Bill. I am not a Trump supporter. He was just an order of magnitude better than Hillary.

So back to the original question...........

What is your criteria for a lot? Surely you do not think.... Well might as well stop there.

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You obviously have a different criteria for what is a lot. So what is you r criteria?

rters out from under the sink. So scuttle back where you came from.

an order of magnitude better than Hillary.

In other words having no experience in government or politics made him a be tter candidate than an ex-Secretary of State. Obama wasn't fooling when he identified Hillary Clinton as the best qualified presidential candidate eve r. Trump is certainly the least qualified ever.

Trump's performance so far has merely been inept. He may have the enthusias m to do more damage, but his ineptitude is obvious enough that his staff sh ould be able to stop him from breaking anything important.

Putting Scott Pruitt in charge of the Environmental Protection Agency was p retty destructive, but industry lobbying has always prevented the agency fr om being particularly effective. The Flint water supply got polluted withou t any help from Trump.

Any claim that Dan may make about not being a Trump supporter has to be tra nslated into an admission that Dan is too dumb to recognise what a total fa ilure Trump's election represents.

as well stop there.

Dan is a little too dumb to understand what "hyperbole" means even when it is explained to him in words that could be expected to be part of his vocab ulary.

I believe walls work both ways. Check it out sometime.

Try getting into prison sometime.

You don't seem to understand. Mexicans come to work here because for the most part they are very welcome. If they weren't welcome there wouldn't be any jobs for them.

When you go to a restaurant, do you leave if the staff is mostly Mexican?

What was that, Mystery Science Theater 2000? A documentary about a documentary?

It's not hard. Many do it each day.

If they weren't here, there would be more jobs for the legal residents who need them. It's amazing that you bitch about H1Bs but somehow think illegals are just peachy.

If I know they're illegal, I would step foot inside.

You are an idiot. Walls do what they're intended to do. Castle walls didn't keep anyone inside but kept invaders out.

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you don't have locks on your doors, everyone is free to walk in anytime the y want?

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like everyone else they have to enter the country legally

You are saying Mexican automatically means illegal?

Not a whole lot of Mexicans here in Northern Europe, anyway I don't care where people come from I care about people following the law and that inclu des entering the country legally

. You obviously have a different criteria for what is a lot. So what is y our criteria?

So what is your criteria? Ashamed to admit you made a really stupid post?

t an order of magnitude better than Hillary.

better candidate than an ex-Secretary of State. Obama wasn't fooling when h e identified Hillary Clinton as the best qualified presidential candidate e ver. Trump is certainly the least qualified ever

If you picked a person randomly out of the Boston Telephone Directory , you would have a person that was a better candidate than Hillary. If the Demo crats had run anyone other than Hillary , they would have won walking away. I am inclined to think the Democrats helped to get Trump the Republican c andidate. He certainly was the most likely loser of anyone running against Hillary. .

asm to do more damage, but his ineptitude is obvious enough that his staff should be able to stop him from breaking anything important.

pretty destructive, but industry lobbying has always prevented the agency from being particularly effective. The Flint water supply got polluted with out any help from Trump.

ranslated into an admission that Dan is too dumb to recognise what a total failure Trump's election represents.

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t is explained to him in words that could be expected to be part of his voc abulary.

Bill is way too stupid to know he should stop trying to justify saying that a lot of illegal immigrants work for Trump. He just gets in deeper and de eper.

You still are trying to say that you are more intelligent than I am. Best give it up. Everyone reading this newsgroup already sees your lack of inte lligence.

Dan

Edward the Fifth may disagree with you there.

nt. You obviously have a different criteria for what is a lot. So what is your criteria?

There's nothing stupid about using low level hyperbole. Your reaction is pr etty moronic, but we've come to expect that.

ust an order of magnitude better than Hillary.

a better candidate than an ex-Secretary of State. Obama wasn't fooling when he identified Hillary Clinton as the best qualified presidential candidate ever. Trump is certainly the least qualified ever

ou would have a person that was a better candidate than Hillary.

One that you liked better. Perhaps half of them would have been male, which would have been definite plus in your eyes. Very few of the would have bee n previous Secretaries of State, which is a definite plus from my point of view, and from that of most informed observers.

walking away.

That's possible. A lot of American's clearly aren't ready for a female pres ident. I'm not sure that the Democrats had a reality TV-star on tap with th e same kind of name recognition that Trump had.

And few politicians are such bare-faced liars as Trump. Trump is unfortunat ely ignorant, but that ignorance allows him to say what his audiences want to hear, and because he doesn't bother remembering what he has said in the past, he can tailor his lies to fit each successive audience.

The Republicans couldn't come up with a candidate as attractive to voters a s Trump. Hillary Clinton may have been female, but three million more peopl e voted for her than for Trump, if not in the right places to win the elect oral vote.

Bernie Sanders might have done better in the rust belt states - what he was advocating might have done them some good - but he was an admitted sociali st, and a century of newspaper indoctrination has deprived a lot of America ns of the capacity to tell the difference between socialist and communist.

andidate. He certainly was the most likely loser of anyone running against Hillary.

Why do think that?

siasm to do more damage, but his ineptitude is obvious enough that his staf f should be able to stop him from breaking anything important.

as pretty destructive, but industry lobbying has always prevented the agenc y from being particularly effective. The Flint water supply got polluted wi thout any help from Trump.

translated into an admission that Dan is too dumb to recognise what a tota l failure Trump's election represents.

ight as well stop there.

it is explained to him in words that could be expected to be part of his v ocabulary.

at a lot of illegal immigrants work for Trump. He just gets in deeper and deeper.

This was the first item Google threw up. Dan clearly couldn't be bothered t o do his own search.

The next one - from the National Review - also covers more recent infractio ns.

t give it up. Everyone reading this newsgroup already sees your lack of in telligence.

Dream on. The guy who can't even do his own googling likes to think that he is "intelligent"?

A poll was taken early on in the race and the results showed that if Bernie was nominated he would have beat any of the Republican candidates. Hillary would have beat any except Trump. The margins were close but even if the spreads were wider, I don't know how valid such an early poll would be.

Actually they aren't. My house was broken into when I locked my doors. I use no locks on my doors now and no one has come into the house that wasn't invite for some years.

Not sure what you are saying. They haven't been coming in legally for decades and it has been working just fine. The problem is with a few people who make up fake reasons to object.

If you are not in the US, how do you know anything about our problems? People break laws every day. You break laws driving to work or crossing the street. No one gets through the day without breaking laws and yet the world functions just fine for the most part. When there is a problem, it needs to be addressed. The fact that a law is broken does not automatically mean a problem exists other than perhaps that the law could be changed to allow the things that don't cause problems.