OT: Bitcoin offers solution to global currency problems.

Maybe Bitcoin is the answer to our monetary problems? No more government co ntrol, QE stuff, or inflation. All transactions done by computers?

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MILTON FRIEDMAN famously called for the abolition of the Federal Reserve, w hich he thought ought to be replaced by an automated system which would inc rease the money supply at a steady, predetermined rate. This, he argued, wo uld put a lid on inflation, setting spending and investment decisions on a surer footing. Now, Friedman's dream has finally been realised?albeit not by a real-world central bank.

Bitcoin, the world's "first decentralised digital currency", was devised in 2009 by programmer Satoshi Nakomoto (thought not to be his?or her?real name). Unlike other virtual monies?like Second Life's Linden dollars, fo r instance?it does not have a central clearing house run by a single comp any or organisation. Nor is it pegged to any real-world currency, which it resembles in that it can be used to purchase real-world goods and services, not just virtual ones. However, rather than rely on a central monetary aut hority to monitor, verify and approve transactions, and manage the money su pply, Bitcoin is underwritten by a peer-to-peer network akin to file-sharin g services like BitTorrent.

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Bill Bowden
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Reply to
David Eather

That's my expectation (though there may be more dirty business than just producing a competitor). It would have to get bigger by many orders of magnitude before it would be too big to fail, and I suspect it will be either slapped down or there will be an "embrace, extend and extinguish" strategy brought into play.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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Spehro Pefhany

Bitcoins are minted at a pre-determined rate per unit time, (10 minutes) so working harder will will not increase the supply. it will only your share of that supply.

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Jasen Betts

Yes, assuming it survives and all. Most likely the Gum'mint is going to slap it down in the next few years. Maybe someone will come out with another, but there will probably be enough chilling effects in place by then to minimize adoption (i.e., it won't become a 'thing' like BC is now).

Government being what it is, actual implementation of a legitimate electronic currency would take a few decades, and require coordination with the credit card companies (because, whose else's palms are they going to grease?), and various back alley deals in finance and industry that will come to light yet make little difference to the outcome (at least, that's how things seem to work today).

Tim

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Tim Williams

Belgium has had cryptographic eCash called Protons for nearly two decades now. It is fast efficient for small purchases and paper free.

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Their Banksys Proton chip technology is available off the shelf and works (they have some of the best cryptographers in the business).

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Martin Brown

Oh yeah, Europe is doing some things right, aren't they? Let me rephrase that then: adoption in the U.S.. ;o)

Tim

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Tim Williams

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Regards, Mikko

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reg

Yeah, to mine bitcoin economically you need an ASIC.

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Reply to
Jasen Betts

Digital 'Fool's Gold'.

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Reply to
Michael A. Terrell

Bitcoin is government project to dump dollar debt into monopoly money, and then bust it. Not only this makes easier for dollar but bitcoin weenies will go belly up. Bitcoin bust will call for even more strict regulation over banking, and that would be another gain for authorities.

Bitcoin mining is based on NSA-2 hash function.

VLV

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Vladimir Vassilevsky

With that in mind, NEVER save bitcoins. SPEND bitcoins fast, LEAVE others holding bitcoins, ALWAYS change to real property as fast as possible.

Reply to
RobertMacy

This applies of course to any currency. Assume that the US $100 bill is so well forged that it passes all checks and the market is flooded with these forgeries, the value of the US dollar will drop.

If someone manages to forge bitcoins, the values will crash rapidly, much faster than a massive invasion of paper bills.

As a rule of thumb, any cryptographic method will be broken sooner or later, the real question is, will the method be secure for a limited period of time when the method is used. Don't expect any cryptological method to be secure forever.

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upsidedown

Kinda like what the Fed is doing now.

Bits can be printed even faster than $100 bills.

The real question is what's the point of a bitcoin? It seems about as useful as a Carbon credit.

Reply to
krw

Your thinking is backwards: it's a good currency specifically because it is completely and utterly pointless. Read up on "fiat currency". Whereas carbon credits were created with a purpose in mind.

Tim

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Reply to
Tim Williams

I am surprised you are not all for it - a medium of exchange independent of government control!

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Reply to
John Devereux

How is bitcoin different from a pyramid scheme?

Reply to
Greegor

Bullshit. There is even less transparency behind it than there is the USG.

Reply to
krw

I'm surprised that you advertise that you're a total dolt.

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krw

Pyramid schemes are underground?

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krw

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