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I must agree. That blazing idiot Strousup thought that smalltalk like objects really could be smoothly bolted onto C. Thirty years later it is finally becoming apparent to even him that it wasn't the best idea.
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So does Pascal, Object Pascal, Ada, Perl, Python and many other = languages. And guess what, none of them have the same mind bending inconsistencies that C++ endured for so many years.
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And enables you to make a whole lot new ones instead.
Yeah. That's the hard part.
Vinzent.
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On a sunny day (Fri, 16 Mar 2012 22:07:38 GMT) it happened snipped-for-privacy@puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) wrote in :
mm, 'when used right' you can dig your grave with a thoothpic too. LOL
On a sunny day (Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:06:41 +0100) it happened "Vinzent Hoefler" wrote in :
Right C++ was invented by Stroussup because he could not program. He did not want to really learn how to program in C, so he invented his own kludges so it looked like he could. That hit big time with all the other ones who could not program either.
It is a normal thing, human nature, people do not know how to do something,. and then do not want to learn, so they make their own solutions. that is why so see a new programming language every year, and the creators of those shouting from the treetops that it makes everything so simple that any clueless idiot can use it. Now you have 2 problems, clueless idiots using languages written by clueless idiots. Stroussup should be in that jail on Cuba, His ideas created more bloat than you can imagine, but OK, C++ compiler writers benefit [1], so do hardware vendors, so it has its supporter, even beyond those who never learned to program in C.
[1] They never seemed to agree on the correct interpretation of that language [2] though,. [2] Speech disability, [3] hates PICs too, his PIC projects did not work.
Hey, if you think object bolting in C++ is bad, check out Matlab some time -- amazing they managed to pull it off at all. :-)
Pragmatically speaking, C++ is pretty good -- it offered a lot of the power of "pure" OO languages such as Smalltalk or LISP, and as history has shown, none of those languages have ever been hugely successful commercially... whereas C++ very much has been. I.e., the choice wasn't ever C++ or Smalltalk, it was C++ or C.
I am a little surprised that Apple decided to make Objective C the primary programming language of iThings ... I suppose that's what you end up with if you don't like C++ that much but don't want to suck all the performance out of your app using something like LISP.
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LISP isn't really object oriented. It is actually something even more different.
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