more lunacy from the BBC

Apr 06, 2026 Last reply: 3 months ago 85 Replies

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"This is the first time that digital cameras have been taken this far into space."


John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics


Maybe they meant personal digital cameras...

Plenty of digital cameras for example on Mars landers... Other space probes... And Hubble and Webb telescopes. But it is nice that they follow the mission.

"Holiday photos."

Why does that thing need a pilot? The crew could be asleep the whole trip.

John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics

Because space travel, like astronomy, is primarily a cultural activity.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Oh very good! Lunacy and lunar are etymologically related! (S.

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Ask a few random people "What does Digital mean?" The number of different responses will be similar to the number of different responses to a question such as "What does God mean or what does God do?"

I note that Edward Rawde posted today via BlueWorld Hosting.

I am sorry to ask! Is Blue World working for you?

I am still waiting for a newsfish job to save anything from Blue World since Thu Mar 19 07:53:21 PM CET 2026 but it saved nothing so far!

Its .newsfishrc is:

sci.electronics.design:

  • ^Date:.*2026 /home/gloucester/coldstorage/Usenet/sci.electronics.design_downloaded_on_19th_March_2026_date d_2026.mbox.txt

top for this process shows "[. . .] TIME+ COMMAND [. . .] [. . .] 0:20.21 newsfish" since days ago. (S.

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Since it's a completely free service I have no complaints. It does have occasional outages which can last a few days but Usenet is not so important to me that that matters.

They will tell you - correctly - that it pertains to fingers.

If you asked them about digital electronics you might get a more sensible answer.

These days hardware electronics is split between analog, digital and mixed signal.

Analog electronic engineers can mostly handle digital and mixed signal electronics, and some of them can do better with fast digital electronics than regular digital electronic engieers.

Not really. Most people are totally ignorant about electronics, while the religious proselytise furiously.

Are you on Earth or some other planet?

No doubt you are one of the better ones or you wouldn't be telling us.

Have you produced a circuit to meet my LED drive specification yet? There are many reasons why I think you never will.

Thanks for responding. I wonder should I wait many more days for any hoped-for progress from this newsfish job; or should I kill this newsfish job and start a new newsfish job; or should I use a different program to download articles from this year?

If I would start a new newsfish job, could I use an alternative, efficient regular-expression filter? If so, what?

I downloaded all 647 MB of articles from many newsgroups from many years from BlueWorld Hosting in November 2025, but those newsgroups are small whereas news:sci.electronics.design is big, and their regular-expression filter is simple (everything) whereas I am trying to download only recent articles from this newsgroup. (S.

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If it's an issue with blueworld then I'd contact them. They've been very responsive any time I've requested information on whether the service has gone forever or will be back.

Digits are fingers (and toes). It is also the numbers from one to ten, because that's how they were originally counted. Digital massage means applying pressure with a finger.

I was the lead hardware engineer on an instrument project, and expressed the idea that we should do some of the fast number crunching in emitter-coupled logic. One of the better digital engineers in the team expressed scepticism and said it might be an attractive idea, but he'd seen it go wrong quite often. When I said that it had always worked for me his response was that I was an an analog engineer, which did make sense. The TTL specialists were never happy with terminated transmission lines.

One or more LED's? That's not a specification. The thread is all about John Larkin being rude about a perfectly simple - if half-baked - EDN circuit, which he clearly couldn't make sense of.

I shouldn't have chipped in to the extent that I did.

Digits are fingers (and toes). It is also the numbers from one to ten, because that's how they were originally counted. Digital massage means applying pressure with a finger.

I was the lead hardware engineer on an instrument project, and expressed the idea that we should do some of the fast number crunching in emitter-coupled logic. One of the better digital engineers in the team expressed scepticism and said it might be an attractive idea, but he'd seen it go wrong quite often. When I said that it had always worked for me his response was that I was an an analog engineer, which did make sense. The TTL specialists were never happy with terminated transmission lines.

One or more LED's? That's not a specification. The thread is all about John Larkin being rude about a perfectly simple - if half-baked - EDN circuit, which he clearly couldn't make sense of.

I shouldn't have chipped in to the extent that I did.

I'm not sure what you're answering here but I have various search engines at my disposal if I need information I don't already have.

I can remember a time when I wanted an ECL 22V10 but there wan't one (more than 30 years ago) it doesn't matter if there is now.

The shiny, "progressive" face of the military-industrial complex. We can defund all that it's cool.

The problem is that they don't give you information that you didn't realise that you needed.

Programmable logic deice with ECL compatible input and outputs became available in the 1990s. They were then much too expensive for the sort of applications that I was looking at at that time. A lot of the advantage of ECL lay in its capacity to drive terminated transmission lines, which you need to move fast signal around, and when you could get pretty much all the logic into a single big prograamble chip you didn't need to move anything like as many signals around the board.

They'll be out of range of the cell-phone networks for uploading to Facebook or Instagram. The 2 sec delay might screw up the protocol anyway.

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Brian

It is interesting, I would like photos of the backside of the moon with my Xiaomi smartphone it's camera is amazing.

When going back in time, in those days of the first Moon landing I had a Werra 35 mm camera, (East German made):

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a Durst enlarger:
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and developed my own enlargements in BW.

For video I had a vidicon camera that I designed and build in 1968. And in the seventies a Philips LDL100 video recorder!

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1972 I modified it for color...

Many years later I bought a Kodak instant camera, instant pictures... That was better stuff !

Several cameras now, Canon.. and some IR models for Raspberry Pi, Sony Super HAD ultra low light ones, some digital security ones.. Canon is a nice camera too, runs special software you can install, recorded this with it:

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There are $5 FPGAs now with 10 ns pin-pin delays, 3000 logic blocks, 1 ns rise/fall, PLLs, cmos and LVDS levels. The internal logic is almost zero delay.

John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics

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