Good engineering

Apr 05, 2026 Last reply: 3 months ago 3 Replies

Well, maybe "thoughtful" (or considerate) would be a better word.



Replaced a sink, last night. To secure the valve assembly to the body of the sink, you need to install a nut on a very long threaded pipe. The obvious solution is a deep (VERY deep) socket. Or, maybe a crow's foot (but few people have them or are even aware they exist!).



Manufacturer included an extruded (?) socket of the requisite depth (a bit over 3 inches -- a stretch for many deep sockets!).



But, arranged for it to be "driven" by:



- 1/2" hex socket



- 11/16 - 13/16 wrench (open/box), continuously variable!



- #3 Philips



- large slotted



Clearly they gave SOME thought to DIY installers!


Recently, I came across an even smarter thing: The nut had an elliptical hole and canted threading and mating sufaces. You could slide it on almost all the way and only near the end the canted mating surface made the threads engage. A few turns would be enough to tighten it.

Jeroen Belleman

I have that sinking feeling. Midnight plumbing? Some things are best done under cover of darkness.

Extra long stamped sockets are common for shower valves and basin (sink) installations.

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So far, I see stamped tools supplied with the more expensive sink and showed kits, but not with cheap kits or fixture components.

Now, that's nice. I haven't seen that. I usually see 2 round holes at one end. Insert included rod or round screwdriver in both holes and I have a "T" wrench. The "T" handle system is difficult to tighten properly.

I wonder what problem they're trying to solve. My guess(tm) is that everyone keeps the supplied tools and stores them in an obscure location where they cannot be found when needed. It's easier to provide a "free" tool, than to deal with an irate customer demanding to know if the tool was lost in shipping or stolen at hardware store.

Back to working on my taxes...

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