Luton Airport flights suspended after large car park fire

You may regret that, the BBC is no longer a reliable source of news like it once was.

The BBC's report appeared to be quoting the fire officer as saying the vehicle was diesel, but closer examination of the punctuation shows that the assertion was not made by the fire officer and we don't know where the BBC got it from. The Stavanger fire was reported by several eye-witnesses to be started by an electric car on fire but the audio log of the reports was not available to the investigators. Both reports stink of a cover-up.

They may both turn out to be accurate, but as they stand they are at pains to appear to be giving unbiassed facts but actually offer no evidence to back up their assertions. You are condemning Cursitor Doom for mentioning something that is fairly obvious to most people with sufficient knowledge and is quite likely to be exposed as the truth once the fog of misinformation has cleared.

There is a lot of hype around electric vehicles - if they were that wonderful, why would various UK authorities need to give incentives to buy them and force people with other vehicles to scrap them prematurely? That's not a conspiracy theory, it is based on watching what is actually happening and thinking soberly about the possible reasons behind it.

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Liz Tuddenham
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Compared with what?

Not to anybody sane,

It may look fairly obvious to somebody who shares Cursitor Doom's taste for fatuous conspiracy theories, but I don't have that problem.

It's not hype. They are cheaper to run, and if we are to get anthropogenic global warming reigned in we do have to switch over to electric cars.

Then you need to think harder.

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Anthony William Sloman

I had a fairly open mind about you when I posted on this subject but I have come to a similar conclusion to some of the others. Either you are intentionally or congenitally obtuse or you are deliberately provoking futile personal argument so as to avoid reasoned discussion.

Either way, I shan't be reading any of your posts from now on as your aggressive attitude obscures any useful information you may be able to contribute.

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Liz Tuddenham

Of course they don't. BBC news reports are necessarily brief. If you want in-depth analysis you have to dig into the arcane depths of the trade press which run on the advertising income they get from the trade they are reporting on. Google will find it for you, but it won't tell you how reliable it is. Scientific training does try to teach people how to read the literature with a sceptical eye, but it isn't easy.

You are asserting that you do have sufficient knowledge to make that judgement, as does Cursitor Doom. Cursitor Doom has posed as an expert on subjects he clearly doesn't know anything about. You haven't, but when you endorse his potty conspiracy theories, you do become suspect.

intentionally or congenitally obtuse or you are deliberately provoking futile personal argument so as to avoid reasoned discussion.

There's quite a bit of evidence to suggest that I wasn't all that obtuse when I was younger, and I still hang out with people who would probably tell me if senile dementia was setting in.

Pointing out that people are posting nonsense is futile, but I've been doing it all my life. My very first published comment in the Review of Scientific Instruments (on photomultiplier linearity) drew a dismissive response from the author who had screwed up but it ended up cited in the series Methods of Experimental Physics - Phil Hobbs found it a few years ago.

It's difficult to be diplomatic about telling people that you think that they have got stuff wrong, and I don't bother.

If you want to be flattered - as John Larkin seems to - you do need to know that I'm not in the business of making you feel good about yourself.

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Anthony William Sloman

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