How not to wire up an electric grill

Yes, and they did it entirely wrong. The heart model they used was in no way shape or form representative of any real world scenario, and the BODY model they used did not take into account anything related to the blood, which is quite salty, and the main part of what kills in electrocution scenarios.

It was in now way representative of how a shock between two extremities would occur, NOR was it representative of how a current would flow through a body in a tub of water.

Yeah, and they got it 100% wrong, IMNSHO.

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Corbomite Carrie
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He won't touch it... he zaps cats and dogs for fun. :-]

Now, the manager of the firm Dilbert works for... that is another story.

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Corbomite Carrie

come to think of it... does european 220 volt have an earthed neutral, or is it like US 220, but without the earthed neutral that gives us

110?
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Mark

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Mark

"Raises" the question. "Beg the question" is a special term - see def.

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Cheers! Rich

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Rich Grise

Theirs is not a center tapped setup at all. Both sides are HOT if I am not mistaken. Still, there is no path from one node to its return node that passes THROUGH the folks in the pool.

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ChairmanOfTheBored

When are you going to manage to DIE very painfully?

Dumbfuck, you do NOT manage a goddamned thing around here, and you sig/sign is as retarded as you are.

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ChairmanOfTheBored

This is called a PATH. Of course even a dope like you knows that current flows THROUGH paths, from a source to its return (or attractor), so of course there would be some of that current flowing through a body within the PATH.

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ChairmanOfTheBored

A couple mA actually.

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ChairmanOfTheBored

My guess is they're not plugged in at the wall, and it's a staged photo.

Mark

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redbelly

Nah, it's in Germany. Haven't them yer-a-peein's been subject to imperial rule for centuries? I'm guessing they have mandatory GFCIs, such that their rulers can speechify about "giving" people "safety" and "security".

In Heaven, the British run the police, the French do the cooking, the Germans do the repairs, the Swiss run the trains, and the Italians are the lovers.

In Hell, the Germans run the police, the British do the cooking, the French do the repairs, the Italians run the trains, and the Swiss are the lovers.

Cheers! Rich

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Rich Grise, Plainclothes Hippi

That was my first response, except I didn't use the term "wall".

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ChairmanOfTheBored

And in either, you're still the idiot!

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Do I really need to say?

Well, it takes one to know one! ;-)

Cheers! Rich

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Rich Grise, Plainclothes Hippi

??

Are you that terrified that someone disagrees with you?

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John
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John O'Flaherty

That's true for someone who has a normal heart, and who is not electrically susceptible due to a catheter or some other intrusion that would concentrate the current. In any case, a couple of mA is quite easily reached when there is very little resistance, such as the

100 ohms or so when a body is immersed in water.
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John
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John O'Flaherty

Yes, wet body means lower resistance, HOWEVER, there has to be a path. Two contact points where the heart lies BETWEEN them.

There was (is) a lady reporter in LA CA that got one of her arms burnt nearly completely off by a high current... a current that never passed through her heart because the path between entry and exit points for the HV did not have her heart in line with them.

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ChairmanOfTheBored

Bullshit.

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ChairmanOfTheBored

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that's what I'm thinking. it's like before gfis, when they used to stick an isolation transformer in the bathroom outlets for shavers, so you would be floating with respect to any current leaks, despite the fact that you were solidly grounded to the pipes.

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z

Our industrial hygienist (safety specialist) at work concurs - he noticed there's nothing cooking, nothing on the grill, no smoke...

Michael

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mrdarrett

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