how can people post things this stupid?

Mar 01, 2014 84 Replies

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Darlington drops the the output swing by a Vce-sat which is less than a Vbe - when Jan was clearly thinking of the "synthetic diode" approach to repla cing the two biassing diodes which make the output class A/B.

I freely confess to a senior moment, when I typed "krw seems to be thinking ". Dignifying your mental processes as "thinking" is obviously incorrect.

Since you haven't spelled out the alternative connection you had in mind, y ou haven't exactly made a persuasive case - it looks more like the applicat ion of your usual algorithm - "krew is right and anybody who disagrees with him has to be wrong".

the output swing.

Replacing a two-diode biasing structure with one transistor and a couple of resistors to generate much the same voltage drop doesn't seem likely to af fect the current gain or the output swing. You might have a persuasive argu ment suggesting a different conclusion, but you haven't spelled it out, and the chance that you will is about as good as that of pigs taking flight.

Bill Sloman, Sydney

But, then, why would you?

I wish everyone would calm down. It's not a real amplifier. No one is saying "build this". It is only a construction to allow some parameters to be calculated as basic practice. All those knickers in a twist ...

That was my take too. Too many folks with a superiority complex.

The difficulty is the precision required. 70 nm precision on a 25-mm diameter gear equates to over a million encoder lines per rev.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net

I guess I'm a little surprised a worm gear can do better open loop, backlash and all, than an encoder.

You control backlash with a preload, and by scanning in only one direction. It's the repeatability that's the issue in this case, rather than the absolute tuning accuracy.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net

25mm with 70nm pitch = 1121997.376 ?

Does not seem to be a whole number?

Was 25mm a ball park figure?

Jamie

Got your train license now?

Jamie

You're kidding, right?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net

Nah, just putting the post title in application...

Thanks, Fred.

What ever you say.

Jamie

I don't see much wrong with it except they didn't specify the amplitude of the input (Vin). If suppose the input swing was -0.7 to +20.7, and the freq uency was high enough not to cause a drop on the caps, the output should mo ve between 0 to +20 with a peak power output of 10^2/8 = 12.5 watts or 6.

25 RMS. Isn't that what the article says?

-Bill

There's thermal runaway. And 2 watts dissipated in the resistors. And they blew the impedance calculation.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com

I am not sure if your post should be accepted for its face value or is this just a parody.

While a complementary emitter follower could be driven with voltages outside the 0..20 V voltage range (requiring a separate power supply outside that range on both sides), you still had to consider the VceSat losses (about 0.5 to 1.0 V) compared to the 0.7 .. 1.5 Vbe losses.

Even with VceSat of only 0.5 V, the voltage swing would be 0.5 to 19.5 V and thus the voltage swing +/-9.5 Vp or 11.3 W. The actual loudness difference (expressed in dB) would be miniscule .

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Sure they want to get whatever the latest sales critter just snowed them with. It doesn't even have to be useful in the real application.

For the big paycheck. Engineers, even incompetent ones can make good money so long as there is enough decent engineers in the organization (and properly placed) to save them from themselves.

P.S. welcome to my world.

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Crickey, are you telling me that the gear train is not biased with a spring or some means to reduce slop? Standard technique in servoland. (Actually we slightly misalign the high ratio synchro to get the drive train pushed to one side.)

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Of course it's preloaded, and so are the bearings. Getting slop down below 70 nm under sliding friction is a bit of a parlour trick even so. Just the grease working its way out of the the interface is more than we can stand.

I told the engineers to use a sine bar rather than a worm gear, but since I didn't have executive authority, they didn't do it.

The sine bar could have been longer, and the screw could have had many more turns than the worm gear has teeth. They could both have been made from Invar, as well.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net

At 2 microns? Nothing whatsoever.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net

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That gets me to wondering what could be done with an LED laser shot through the grating to a carefully positioned high megapixels camera chip.

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