Herd instincts?

Ever since I watched a wolf pack of left wing yahoos trying to shout down Hubert Humphrey during a campaign speech by screaming at the top of their lungs "freedom of speech, freedom of speech" it's been clear to me that a 'liberals' interpretation of the principle is their 'right' to shut up anyone they disagree with so that the same lack of principle exists amongst 'liberal' professors comes as no great surprise.

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@hovnanian.com:

But it's ACCURATE. the vast majority of US educators *are* "liberals"/socialists/"progressives". (IOW,Communists)

Just reading the school websites reveals their "progressive" tilt.

Paul,you ought to read Mike S Adam's columns on College socialism. It would rock your world.

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Jim Thompson wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

usually,your posts are more reactions to "liberal" comments from the Leftists who post on S.E.D.,than beginning such threads.

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Why are lurkers always the netcops? You contribute nothing, and then complain about the quality.

My suggestion is that you don't lurk in newsgroups you don't like.

John

Back in 1967 Alex Comfort wrote a book about this sort of medical moralising.

"The anxiety makers: Some curious preoccupations of the medical profession" (Natural history of society series)

It's out of print, but Amazon has got six copies on offer.

The take-away message was that you can always find a medico to produce a psuedo-medical justification for whatever social prejudice is in fashion in your society at any given time. Alex Comfort produced some fairly amazing examples.

And I'd be interested to learn why John Larkin would think that late adolescent sexual activity is "leftist". Some left wing intellectuals have advocated it, but then again, so have some right wing nutters. Right wing students seem to be no less sexually active than left wing students, though they may not make speeches about it. The URL he posted does seem to claim that late adolescent sexual activity is a recent invention, which is a little surprising, but they don't suggest that it correlates with political orientation.

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flipper wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

IMO,that is where it all originates,with the leftist Professors.

I bet they get all riled up when called on it,too.

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John Larkin wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

my experience is that in many unmoderated newsgroups,political discussions often erupt. It's a case of NG regulars getting to know more about the other regulars,just as other OT threads.

What I'd like to know is why this is also crossposted to alt.binaries.schematics?

what MORON did that?

C'mon,own up to it,be a mensch,and take your deserved beating.

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And it, unfortunately, hasn't changed over all these years. Anytime these cretins can't win an argument the technique is to "shout-over".

** I liked Hubert Humphrey; and the Ev (Dirksen) and Charlie (Halleck) Show... opponents were different in the "good ol' days" ;-)

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No. Communism (capital C) is a poor implementation of socialist ideology.

As far as the socialist label, what would you expect from a group of people whose profession is primarily supported by public funds? You don't see many pacifists employed by Defense Department contractors. do you? You might be getting cause and effect mixed up with the liberal/progressive tendencies. Perhaps it is the property of having a broad education that makes one seem like a 'liberal'.

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Oh give the guy a break. A thing like more than one person commenting on a contemporary study and essay that came out Nov 13/14, 2007, so the ink's still wet, 'confuses' liberals. Must be a 'conspiracy'... black helicopters, bots, Carl Rove

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@hovnanian.com:

WRT college educators,YES. Even liberals have commented on that.

that's always what socialists/Communists claim;that their good intentions were "poorly applied". Fact is,that crap just doesn't work.

I don't have any data on their employment practices. I suspect that many anti-war and socialist people ARE employed by defense contractors,as it's a good paycheck and benefits.

It was not always be that way. Not until the early 1900s did the Fabians and other "progressives" begin their socialist indoctrination and infiltration of society. And it's clear how that all "progressed".

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Jim Thompson wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

they also employ tactics like claiming "racism","discrimination",or the over-used "fascism". Then they attempt to ruin the person's employment and lives using that.

Look at what happened to that Harvard professor who commented on women's abilities in hard sciences,and is fighting to retain his job. And he's a diehard liberal!!

So much for the vaunted liberal desire for "diversity";definitely NO diverse opinions if they conflict with liberal views.

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In some ways I think it's worse because, back then, you'd have been hard pressed to find someone in a responsible position who condoned that sort of thing but these days it's all too common for at least a blind eye to be turned or to get a babble comment about 'tolerant understanding'... of the rabble, not the victim.

Strikes me as a first line of attack rather than a fall back. I mean, for example, Petraeus hadn't even spoken yet before MoveOn called him a traitor, with the willing support and 'price discount' of a major news outlet. Not 'mistaken' or overly optimistic but the most heinous crime and only capital offense explicitly stated in the Constitution: traitor. And by the same people who'll scream "how DARE you question my patriotism?" if you so much as mention that 'redeploying' out of theater during combat is universally recognized around the world as 'retreat'. But the highly decorated top command in theater who they fear might report some progress is a 'traitor'.

Or how about a New York Senator calling him a liar to his face in public hearing?

IIRC Friedman was wealthy.

How about Ben Stein ?:-)

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I DO initiate threads. Since I have Talk Radio or TV going constantly in the background I catch a lot of things when they first happen.

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Naaaah! It's part of the mental defectiveness that thinks a label (PhD) infuses intelligence.

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It works fine as applied in England, France, Germany and Sweden.

Today the euro is worth $1.46515, so we seem to be doing something right.

Modern socialism has come a long way since the bolshevics split off from the mainstream of Russian socialism back in 1903. They split because the mainstream socialists though that the bolshevic emphasis on the central role of the party was dangerously undemocratic and likely to lead to precisely the sort of bureacratic nightmare that developed in communist Russia. If you want an early prophecy, Mikhail Bakunin wrote "If you took the most ardent revolutionary, vested him in absolute power, within a year he would be worse than the Tsar himself" sometime around 1871. Rahter later, Yevgeny Zamatkin wrote "We" in 1920 when the communist state was just getting under way.

Active ant-protestors mught have trouble getting the security clearance you need to work on defence department contracts, or ti akkowed into buildings where people are working on sensitivedefence department contracts.

The Fabian society was founded in 1884. Socialism got under way some fifty years earlier

though it wasn't too well-defined until Karl Marx and Fredrick Engels wrote the the Communist Manifesto in 1848.

Fabian socialism did pretty well - the Fabians helped establish the British Labour Party

Russian Communism was an aberration - socialists outside Russia never liked them, and the Russian communists regarded non-communist socialists as their most dangerous enemies.

In this particular case Jim doesn't know what he is talking about, which isn't all that surprising - American capitalism has been terrified of socialism for a least a century, and their "free press" has been equating socialism and Russian communism for most of that time.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Whereas Jim represents the kind of mental deficiency that fails to see that it is kind of difficult to do the work required to get a Ph.D. without having a fair measure of intelligence to start with - IQ tests on people who have managed to get a Ph.D. suggest that they are pretty much all drawn from that tail of the population with IQ's of 115 or higher. Of course, once you've got over that threshold, your IQ-score doesn't correlate to any significant extent with your subsequent success.

Jim was once intelligent enough to qualify for membeship of Mensa, which does go to show that the intelligence defined by IQ tests is a rather narrowly applicable skill.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen