Herd instincts?

You and Jim are remarkably confident on this point. Unfortunately, this confidence is represents complacent ignorance. You don't see much of what is - in large part because you get your news from news networks who see themselves as part of the entertainment industry, and don't waste good entertainment time telling you much about the world outside the Unites States, and don't risk aggravating their audience by telling them that their preconceptions aren't entirely correct.

Your approach has a lot in common with Dubbya's approach to global warming. He has access to the best scientific advice available, and choses not only to ignore it, but also goes out of his way to make sure that that advice isn't published by any civil servant he can control.

You may think that this approach is no worse than anybody else's, but unfortunately, you happen to be wrong.

Ignorance is a capital offense, and the universe eventually carries out the sentence.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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Your comment was a put-down of socialism, because the wrong people claim to support it.

Grass roots revolutionaries like to claim to be socialist in the same way that Dubbya likes to claim to be in favour of democracy, because it sounds good. If grass roots revolutionaries get power, they set up oligarchies (as in Communist Russia) so that they can hang onto power and the economic advantages that come with it.

When push comes to shove, Dubbya prefers military dictatorships to democracy - as with Musharraf in Pakistan - because he will do what Dubbya wants, against the will of the Pakistani people.

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To give Dubbya his due, he is following his predecessors in this, whp supported Pinochet in Chile, Saddam in Irak and Franco in Spain, amongst many others.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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Herbert John "Jackie" Gleason snipped-for-privacy@Texarkanacops.gov posted to sci.electronics.design:

Funny definition where it dribbles off the bat into the catchers mitt.

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ChairmanOfTheBored snipped-for-privacy@crackasmile.org posted to sci.electronics.design:

That is so far past the long used cast iron cauldron calling the sparkling clean stainless steel kettle black that no hyperbole suffices.

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Jim Thompson snipped-for-privacy@My-Web-Site.com posted to sci.electronics.design:

That sounds strange. Almost any adequate electrical engineer can get a 100K+ per year job now days, i know many that have them. I doubt that even a grocery store (location) manager in a grocery chain makes that much, i could be wrong though.

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I can't read his posts. They're like being beaten with a boring stick.

John

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There is Unemployment available, but not for the rest of your life. It usually has a 26 week maximum. There are also programs to teach you new skills to find other types of work. It isn't a free ride, till you die. If you refuse to find another job, it isn't anyone else's fault.

Really? I thought that he had never had a job in the country he's living in. Why should they pay unemployment for jobs he held in other countries?

if it was, they would turn off the free money tap.

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Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I\'ve got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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You are about as "sparkling clean Stainless" as one of my freshly laid in the toilet turds.

Fuck off, you piece of shit.

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Your obsession with excrement is getting out of hand. You might consider professional help.

John

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You're a goddamned idiot... AND a s*****ad as well.

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ChairmanOfTheBored

True. but Roto Rooter can't handle jobs that large.

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Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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--
Jim and I both have children and grandchildren, so our lines will
more than likely continue to flourish after we shuffle off this
mortal coil.  

You, I believe, have no heirs, so when it\'s lights out for you
there\'ll be no one there to keep the fire burning.  Oh, well, it\'s
not like the end of the world or anything... 

Anyway, as far as the \'discussion\' goes, I see you\'ve opted to
chicken out by reverting to your tawdry America and American
bashing, so I\'ll bid you adieu and let you stew in your own bile. 

Adieu
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snipped-for-privacy@ieee.org snipped-for-privacy@ieee.org posted to sci.electronics.design:

White collar welfare. It will be the final demise of modern European civilization in ten to twenty years. I hope you will like becoming a new third world country.

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Provided that Dubbya's self-indulgent attitude to global warming doesn't wipe them out with some kind of mass extinction event. It's unlikely that we'll hit one of the potential positive feeback trigger points before we can do something about it, but the head in the sand approach doesn't inspire confidence.

My nieces and nephews (there are eight of them) should keep my genes in circulation for a while yet, and I've got a couple of published and cited papers which could be seen as an intellectual legacy, not that there seems to be that much point in getting fussed about it. Once you are dead, you are out of it.

The bile seems to be yours. There are quite a few Americans whose view of the world isn't limited by the blinkers imposed by your news networks, and I've no interest in "bashing" them.

I am interested in trying to get people like you and Jim to recognise that your society - as a whole - doesn't deal well with certain social problems which other countries handle rather better. Your health care system is the classic example - you spend more on health care than anybody else, about 14% of your GDP, and have poorer public health statistics than much poorer countries (Cuba comes to mind). The French and the Germans do appreciably better while spending around 8% of the GDP on health care

Pointing this out may be America-bashing. but any damage I might be doing is trivial in comparison with the damage caused by the inadequacies of your extravagantly expensive health care system.

Shooting the messenger isn't a constructive solution, but it does seem to be the best that you and Jim can come up with. So stew in your own bile.

-- Bill Sloman,

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It depends on the nature of the disagreement. There are some responses that deserve derision, and this is certainly one of them.

You are letting your imagination run away with you. You haven't got a shred of evidence to support this libellous allegation. Try e-mailing snipped-for-privacy@asml.com - last week ASML (who make optical lithography systems for semi-conductor manufacturers, which do have a lot in common with the electron beam lithography systems that I worked on at Cambridge Instruments) advertised a large number of electronic engineering jobs, so I applied for the four or five that I thought I could do. She knocked me back on all of them within a few days.

As far as keeping my unemployment benefit goes, this was a complete waste of time, because I've got a to give a contact phone number for each job that I claim to have applied for, and the ASML advertisement didn't give any such number, nor did their web-site.

The chance that I'd get anything out of them was very low - I did get an interview out of them back in 1994, for what turned out to be a job where I didn't have much to offer (which hadn't been obvious from the ad) but nothing since - but it's fairly clear that they are getting pretty desperate at the moment, so it seemed worth giving them one more try.

You'd lose.

You've got to be kidding. I enjoy doing serious electronics, and I can't really do the kind of stuff I like doing at home - my wife and I may be comfortable, but a decent oscilliscope is out of my range.

Answering questions around here is a poor substitute, but its what I can get.

The boredom would probably kill me.

Your reality. Which does seem to be based on your rather limited imagination.

Illusions don't last.

Now apply this brilliant insight to religion, which is pure delusion. Religious leaders do warp many peoples' perceptions of reality without having the capacity to manipulate anything that any objective observer could describe as real, except in the trivial sense of creating real delusions in real people's heads.

Nope, but I've got enough nieces and nephews (8) to pass.

You both make it blindingly obvious here from time to time.

I doubt it. What works for me probably wouldn't work for you, because you don't seem to have the intellectual skills to construct a coherent argument (see above) nor the background to make sense of the kind of stuff I read. But don't lose heart - you could come a long way just by reading a decent newspaper (the Christian Science Monitor is a lot better than it's name suggests).

Yes, that _is_ one of your problems.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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Martin Griffith mart_in_medina@ya___.es posted to sci.electronics.design:

I can't contrive any interpretation that includes sloman that does not grant me equal benefits and i am working. Nor can i figure out how any unemployment benefit can be much more than a burger flipper makes, let alone be long term. You get just 6 month in the US and only about what a burger flipper makes. Must be some national notional difference. Unemployment benefits better than working as an engineer or scientist? It can't last, that society will pay for that excess.

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snipped-for-privacy@ieee.org snipped-for-privacy@ieee.org posted to sci.electronics.design:

So hang out your shingle and go consulting, if your skills are near what you say they are you should not have any trouble getting all the business you want.

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snipped-for-privacy@ieee.org snipped-for-privacy@ieee.org posted to sci.electronics.design:

I am waiting for it to execute you. I am not holding my breath. I have seen way too many idiots, jerks twits, fools and other marginal persons live 8 decades or more.

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Michael A. Terrell snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.net posted to sci.electronics.design:

Somehow, i can't picture Jim doing anything so self demeaning as that.

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Jim Thompson snipped-for-privacy@My-Web-Site.com posted to sci.electronics.design:

Your idea of worthwhile current news sources is rather tame. You have to actively search for really up to date stuff. Try attaching feeds to the newswire organizations, they are hours to days ahead of talk radio.

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