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SLoman, you can't tell reality from a crappy television show.

You are a paranoid fool.

--=20 Keith

ROTFLOL, but they are pretty standard.

=2E.. sometimes ...

It happens when cooling rooms too. We have a room air conditioner that "supercools" a room where our computer equipment resides. It is not unusual for the indoor-side (cold-side) heat exchanger to ice up, and stop allowing air to pass. So the compressor just keeps driving the coil colder still...

Refrigerators have the same problem, but they automatically do a "defrost cycle" to eliminate the ice buildup.

No big surprise, no great loss in efficiency, just another lesson by Nature for us to learn just Who is boss. ;>)

David A. Smith

Naaaah! GOOD units have an "A-coil" temperature sensor that prevents freeze-up.

...Jim Thompson

Out 2T through-the-wall unit would do that too, then blow the=20 breaker. I think it was low on freon though. It was too expensive=20 to have it fixed and it worked fine if the fan was left on.

Yep.

--=20 Keith

Low freon does cause freeze-ups, unless there is some control of A-coil temperature. Thinking back I think it actually is some kind of pressure sensor rather than a temperature sensor.

My two 5-ton units (Trane) have all kinds of protection systems, even short-cycling is prevented (in case of a power blip).

...Jim Thompson

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Maybe it's fun for you, but I get very worried when I see government policy made by people who got their science education from "Plan Nine from Outer Space."

Thanks, Rich

He doesn't know any better - he's the High Priest of the Church of George.

Sometimes indistinguishable from Bill Sloman, except for the polarity of their extremism.

Cheers! Rich

They've had that for years. Even the AC above (20YO) had short- cycle prevention. The fan would come on, but the compressor had to=20 be off for at least five minutes.

--=20 Keith

Or worse Regent University

But it's not. All the backbone providers, all the portals, all the ISP's, are for-profit corporations. And most of the free stuff is paid for by advertising.

The internet is not a public utility. If you admire public utilities, go stand in line at your local DMV.

John

Sno-o-o-ort!

DMV seems to be a universal standard... government inefficiency at its absolute worst.

...Jim Thompson

DMV = Dimwitted Mangy Vermin.

Keith, please don't insult the paranoids! ;-)

-- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85.

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Not really. I know Jim Thompson is out to get me, but since he really is a paranoid fool, I can't imagine that anyone will take him seriously, any more than I can - though he is a useful example of how right-wing non-thinking can lead someone into making a fool of themselves. You should think about that.

Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

For once I have to agree with you. I don't really have what it takes to qualify as paranoid. I don't see Jim Thompson and his frends in the FBI as a threat - Jim is obviously a joke, and his friends in the FBI will have laughed themselves sick.

Real paranoia takes itself much more seriously.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Come on. I don't take myself that seriously - or Jim either. I haven't reported him to the Arizona Alzheimer's Authority.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Or fools. You make a good point.