Hello! I've recently been interested in measuring the gain non-linearity of various op-amps and composite op-amp configurations for use in integrating ADCs. Following the circuits and measurement techniques posted in these app notes from ADI and TI, the results I got were unusable:
Gain Non-linearity Measurement Woes
Just signal average a bunch.
...and low-pass filter the scope inputs. If a sweep frequency of around 1Hz is used, then maybe filter at about 1kHz. Both app notes are silent on this.
John
Most scopes do bw limiting and signal averaging these days. One can always do some creative graphing too.
I've tried both averaging and bandwidth limiting, but that didn't help much. The only scope I have on hand right now is a HP54600A. In two weeks I should get a Rigol DS1054Z, I'll try the measurements again. Thanks for the tip about low pass filtering the scope input, I'll try that as well. Regards, NNNI
Are you picking up ambient noise? An Altoids or a Danish Butter Cookie can would be a good shield, with some lead bypasses.
I hope you are not using one of those dreadful plastic breadboard things.
I wouldn't dream of using a solderless breadboard for anything!
Wave your hands around it and see if the noise changes. Look for 50/60 Hz too maybe. FFT it!
Nice style, similar to mine. I use gold-plated FR4, which looks good and doesn't tarnish over time.
Looks like I can add a roughly 10 ohm wirewound resistor and have the SSR survive shorting 35 volts for long enough for software to shut things down. Now I need to blow up some surface-mount wirewounds.
Air convection is a classic source of super-low-frequency noise, 1/f sort of thing. Here's a little cover over a thermocouple front-end, which really helps.
IIRC there's an old PMI app note about the OP27, which they tout as having vastly superior open-loop gain linearity compared with the OP07.
I remember it being full of plots and test circuits and stuff. I'll see if I can find it.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
To amplify a current shunt, I used an opamp feedback network of about
10 ohms Thevenin, to keep the Johnson and current-driven noise down. That makes the opamp work hard making much swing, which creates thermal hooks. So, compound amp.I used LT1028.
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