You have an extremely complex transfer function with hundreds of variables and neither of us has any clue where the polls and zeros lie yet you make a simplistic statement of the cause and solution which, of course is total nonsense. Oh that it would be so simple.
We will never get a true handle on it until we start analyzing it mathematically and applying control system theory to its stabilization. Take politics out of it.
Shooting all the Democrats does away with all the pols (snicker ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food
Ok, maybe I didn't make my point clearly, or everyone is saying forget that point, I think it works like this...
Lets say that you have a modular pack composed of 80 differernt modules. Each module has builtin control and SMPS style outputs so that even a single module could run the system, if only for a short time. the on-board electronics, both in each module and in the pack, monitors each pack for its health and status. If a module's performance drops to a certain point, it is flagged for replacement.
Now, maybe John is correct, and the individual cells all have close to identical lifetimes, so that they will all fail within a short period. If that is the case, then perhaps the single, monolithic pack makes sense. However, if there is much variablility in the lifetime of cells, then the individual modules make sense. You only need to replace the few non-performing units (which should then be easy to recycle/refurbish) and keep the entire pack up to standard.
So, the remaining packs may have a relatively short time to failure once units begin to fail, but there may still be months/years on them. There shouldn't be a single, massive failure of all the packs, which is a possibility in a mononlifhic pack...
I want FAST and SAFE, which usually implies BIG ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food
Who knows what the battery chemistry might be for this kind of "module". But my experience with LiIon charging controls suggests that the multi-module approach might be best.
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food
There is special dispensation for rich Democrats ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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Democrats are like cats...
They\'ll take a dump behind your couch and then feign ignorance
BTW, Bob Eld, With transfer functions, it's "poles" and zeros, not "polls" and zeroes ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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Liberals are so cute. Dumb as a box of rocks, but cute.
James Arthur wrote in news:tc7gl.2782$ snipped-for-privacy@nwrddc02.gnilink.net:
Part of it is "safety"(they want a tank),but part of it is sitting up high,too. They get to see over normal autos,but block the sightline of normal cars,and also overlook(miss) cars alongside of them.I've nearly been sideswiped many times by big SUVs because they don't see low sporty cars in the lane next to them,despite their side mirrors. Only MY attention has saved me.
But they trade that for less maneuverability,harder to park,easier to rollover;IMO,they end up being MORE dangerous than a regular car.
WRT aerodynamics,cars are all getting to be more and more alike in shape,and harder to recognize separate brands. They're all getting uglier,too.
I wish Honda would begin making Preludes and Integras again. Those were two great cars.
Jim Thompson wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:
several Porsches and Mercedes are small,fast,yet safe. No car should be required to withstand fast collisions or off-road "shunts". IMO,people SHOULD be at risk;it will make them pay more attention to their driving,or thin out the gene pool.
IMO,good handling,braking and most importantly,the DRIVER,make a car "safe".BTW,"safety" also includes the damage your vehicle can do to other vehicles. IMO,having more SUVs and "light trucks" being commonly used as daily-driver passenger vehicles has DECREASED safety for everyone.
Jim Thompson wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:
of course,you also add extra expense with all those separate monitoring and "SMPS outputs",and the extra circuitry and complexity makes for more failures. Also violates the KISS principle.
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