"Doing" datasheets

Mar 03, 2005 44 Replies

There's a lot of knowlege outside of EE in this group.

Quark is used by publishers and newspapers, so that might not be a bad idea if he's planning on going outside the realm of electronic media.

Best Regards, Mike

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.... I have used PDFCreator a couple of times. It is an open source printer driver. The created file size was usually pretty small, which implies it uses text whenever it can instead of turning it into images.

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Joop

If you'd have seen that 4 or 5 year old Yo-Yo champion on Ripley's last night, and the things he does with Yo-Yos, you'd understand why Yo-Yos are as FUBAR as they are.

Trivia: They said that stone Yo-Yos were used way back when as hunting weapons.

Best Regards, Mike

Why in the world would that be anybody's ultimate aim?

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John

Yep, PNG works best if your ultimate aim is a PowerPoint presentation.

...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

I read in sci.electronics.design that Jim Thompson wrote (in ) about '"Doing" datasheets', on Thu, 3 Mar 2005:

Look what the hardware guys did to the 4004!(;-)

Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. The good news is that nothing is compulsory. The bad news is that everything is prohibited. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

Well it is possible I misinterpreted it: "text" and "pcb layout" were in the same sentance, and of all the info to be included, only pcb files are typically absent searchable text.

It is quite easy to produce the pdf's and then merge the pdf's with the _insert page_ control, so I perhaps I went beyond what was being asked in my interpretation. I thought more was desired, since merging is quite simple.

That's not what I wrote. I wrote there was no point in going to the trouble of getting a pdf with actual text unless he actually wanted to search it. (At least that I can think of.) If he doesn't want searchable text he might as well just print the image, in whatever form. There is a difference between actual text and image that looks like text.

In article , Jim Thompson wrote: [...]

They are stupid. Now you know :>

Actually I think it is because programming classes spend a billion hours on coding and five minutes on design. It is easy to add a bunch of stuff to a program. It is a lot harder to figure out how to make the user interface more straight forward to use.

-- kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge

I bet it doesn't get searchable text out of Capture ;) I'm not going to try right now, but I've a hunch.

Most definitely. Stinkin' pdfs are big. I'm going to check out that thing another poster linked. I bet it'll convert to .pngs, too. These pngs, would've been over twice the size with gifs. And no Compuserve!

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Best Regards, Mike

Unless that print driver to gif program gives you something you can't get from psp, use your psp screen capture, the jpg/gif/png wizards are much better than print screen.

Best Regards, Mike

ROFL. The "Home" page link is to the whitehouse site!

Check out the base URL. The real home page, that is.

Best Regards, Mike

The UI is only a small part of "design". The only easy way to do one other than VB is on Linux 'cause all the UI designers for windows suck.

The real design part only requires a pencil and paper and a some thought to distill the internal functioning of the app into something OO that's easy to upgrade.

Best Regards, Mike

Schematics are no problem for getting searchable text in my experience. But pcb layouts are a "problem" since they are supposed to print precision artwork. The "text" for pcb's is simply image when printed. JL has me convinced that I probably misinterpreted the desire of the OP.

But searchable text is cool for pdf layout drawings (really asm drawings) if you want to distribute to folks who don't have the expensive source program (to find components on complex boards).

I've gotten to like png better than gif.

You can always alt-prntScrn and paste into Paint. Just crop/cut it up how you want and save as gif. That's what I do.

Two of my father's birthdays ago we decided to walk Gettysburg. We need to do it again. Everyone should be sure to visit there!

  • Some of my clients are insistent. Though I've now learned some tricks with PDFs that are actually better for threading through a design.

...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

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I don't use Capture, except when a client asks for files in that format.

I use the old original MicroSim PSpice Schematics ;-)

...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

But the Pentium I chips, the ones in the purplish ceramic package, make superb x-acto knife sharpeners.

John

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 21:58:36 +0100, martin griffith wrote in Msg.

I'd export drawings as EPS and wrap it all up with Latex oder pdfLatex. You get:

- searchable text

- scalable (non-pixelated) graphics

- small filesize.

I'm also quite comfortable with OpenOffice's pdf export option, but I haven't done embedded images with OO yet and I don't know how it handles vector graphics.

Note that EPS (Postscript) is not a vector format but can also contain pixel graphics. Make sure your layout program exports true vector graphics to EPS.

--D.

I've started using ScreenPrint to create graphics files and then include them in Frame. I've tried several similar packages and this one is worth the $40.

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Keith

"John Woodgate" a écrit dans le message de news:+ snipped-for-privacy@jmwa.demon.co.uk...

Sure. It was (and still is) a nice diode. Its successors are much much more leaky, withstands much lower reverse voltage and have an unbelievable number of strange parasitic behaviours.

Weird.

Thanks, Fred.

Yup. They were still around when I was a kid in Rhode Island. Came around the schoolyard in a van full of Yo-Yo's. Kind of like today's crack dealers.

Bob

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