Coronavirus and the Heart

The essence of leftism, really the definition, is that we benefit from increased collective action and public authority. The problem is that nobody is very good at managing an economy or a society, and most are much worse than useless at it.

The essence of conservative/libertarian thought is "leave me alone and I'll take care of myself."

If you graph, over history, human misery vs central control, it's a strong upward slope.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 

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I've known him for decades. He's nice, smart, thoughtful, a good engineer, and has a great singing voice. He has some spread-spectrum patents. But he skis in short pants, which I think is scandalous.

Who wants to see all those bony legs when you're concentrating on your turns?

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 

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I really think there is a certain glee that some people get from contemplating other peoples' death. That's probably tribal/biological. Look at the big-selling "action" movies, which are, lately, non-stop celebrations of team gore.

Some people in this group have made death threats to people they disagree with. Actually, they are probably gamers who blast people on screens but would cry for mama in the face of actual confrontation. Still, their killing fantasies are sick.

Design is fantasizing order and structure, building beautiful things that work. People who hate and fantasize destruction aren't good at that.

B keeps inventing villains who don't actually exist, so he can hate them and dream of killing them. Video game mentality. Mostly harmless.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 

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snipped-for-privacy@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Nope. Only the stupid, gene pool muddy uppers.

In those cases, entire bloodline eradication is in order.

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For at least the last month, the SF Chronicle has been all virus doom, all sections, every page.

This morning, the front page and front section were all about the economic damage of the lockdown. Businesses folding, long food lines, long-time residents packing up and moving out, students reconsidering college and careers.

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Yes. Protect those at risk. Try to treat people who get it. Get it over.

In a way, a healthy young person who hides, wears a mask, avoids contact with others, is being selfish. Wanting someone else to take the small risk for herd immunity.

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Why would someone report an asymptomatic infection?

To who?

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 
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There's nothing wrong with avoiding the draft when there are so many volunteering. Clearly we have many who think like you. Proclaim they support letting the pandemic wash over the country, but keeping themselves away and safe from all the fighting.

Who here is volunteering to do much of anything that puts themselves at risk other than getting haircuts?

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It would be if it happened. Cursitor Doom does seem to be being a trifle un realistic here.

Half right. The political left does believe that a lot of social problems c an be solve on a society-wide basis. The way that social action is organise d is optional. Anarcho-syndicalists want everything organised at the local community level - these are the people who invented the cooperative movemen t.

Their modern equivalents are happy to have an elected authority set the rul es for that local action, but it's more about having a coherent set of stan dards than exerting any kind of central authority.

American right-wingers have spent more than century confusing socialism wit h communism, carefully neglecting to notice that the international socialis ts rejected Karel Marx and the proto-communists back in 1871, on the rather prophetic basis that the leading role of the party would lead to tyranny.

ty, and most are much worse than useless at it.

Some people do a much better job of it than the US has managed. Of course J ohn Larkin approves of what Trump has got up to, which means that John Lark in's judgement is decidedly suspect.

Not quite. They all seem to think that it makes sense for society as a whol e to pay for an army and a police force, which are much more valuable to pe ople with a lot of property that might get plundered or stolen.

Only if you let James Arthur estimate the misery levels.

And of course, the anarcho-syndicalist left doesn't think much of central c ontrol anyway. The communists liked it, but the USSR did rather comprehensi vely demonstrate that it doesn't work all that well, and democratic sociali sts are perfectly happy to let a sensibly regulated free market provide the service that people want, at prices they are prepared to pay.

They don't waste time trying to turn natural monopolies into free markets - you do remember ENRON - or let free marketeers make a mess of heath care.

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His political ideas are bizarre, and his posts are pure right-wing propaganda of the sillier sort. There isn't any inconvenient fact that he isn't willing to ignore in pursuit of rhetorical perfection.

That's a forgivable personal idiosyncracy. Taking money form the Koch brothers for helping to astroturf the Republican Party into the Donald Trump Appreciation society exhibits a rather more serious moral defect.

But then John Larkin doesn't appreciate what's wrong with Donald Trump either.

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matic doesn't mean it actually was. The majority don't have a clue about th e kinds of more subtle damage that can occur. They could have suffered inte rnal organ damage that will develop into serious chronic illness later in t ime, maybe decades. It is more likely than not that many of the millions p eople who have been "exposed" are damaged in some way.

d repeatedly with corona virus infection over decades of study, could and l ikely does explain the so-called higher mortality "second wave" fiasco expe cted in fall 2020/ winter 2021.

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ing? Once you have that, then we can consider approaches that may be bette r.

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The numbers are just a SWAG. There are a lot that are not employed, but wh o are not idle. Just born to about 20 years old are learning. And a bunch starting at about 60 years old are retired.

Dan

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who are not idle. Just born to about 20 years old are learning. And a bun ch starting at about 60 years old are retired.

There are also a lot who are fully employed! School Teachers are working f ull time. Many who worked in offices are now working at home. Then there are the many who always worked from home and those who continue to work at work because they are essential in the literal sense.

I can't say the 30 million number is not accurate, but that is far from 10% of the work force because the work force is far from 100% of the country. I seem to recall some 47% of the country "leaches" off the rest of us. Bu t that was about not paying taxes. Yeah, I don't expect 10 year olds to wo rk or pay taxes.

To suggest that only 10% of the work force remains working is pretty absurd . It's not even a swag, it's just BS.

What are the real numbers? Anyone know?

Income taxes are all going to be whacked this year. That will hit the fed hard.

Why is it the disasters all seem to happen at the end of Republican visits to the White House and it's up to Democrats to fix things up again?

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