Do you have a question? Post it now! No Registration Necessary
- John Larkin
January 13, 2021, 8:52 pm

Lots of half-bridge and full-bridge mosfet gate drivers use a
bootstrap capacitor to make the necessary gate drive for the upper
n-fet. The upper-fet gate needs to swing maybe 10 volts above the
drain supply, which is generally the biggest voltage around.
But the first time the driver is enabled, the boot cap may not be
charged. And it will eventually discharge, given a long enough
positive output pulse. I've never seen a data sheet mention this.
I think I recall some driver that has a charge pump, but that's rare.
Halfway driving a fet is a good way to blow it up. I haven't done that
this week, but it is a concern.
bootstrap capacitor to make the necessary gate drive for the upper
n-fet. The upper-fet gate needs to swing maybe 10 volts above the
drain supply, which is generally the biggest voltage around.
But the first time the driver is enabled, the boot cap may not be
charged. And it will eventually discharge, given a long enough
positive output pulse. I've never seen a data sheet mention this.
I think I recall some driver that has a charge pump, but that's rare.
Halfway driving a fet is a good way to blow it up. I haven't done that
this week, but it is a concern.

Re: charging the bootstrap cap

it stops it from trying to turn on the high side when it can't and forces you
to do the right things which is, charge the bootstrap cap before you start
switching and keep the duty cycle in a range that keeps the bootstrap cap charged

Re: charging the bootstrap cap
13.01.21 23:18, John Larkin wrote:

UVLO for both high and low side is essential for robust design
About the bootstrap, you always turn the low side on at startup to charge the cap. Some even apply small duty cycle to limit the inrush current
Common for bootstrapped half bridge is that 100% duty cycle is not allowed, at least not for many longer periods

UVLO for both high and low side is essential for robust design
About the bootstrap, you always turn the low side on at startup to charge the cap. Some even apply small duty cycle to limit the inrush current
Common for bootstrapped half bridge is that 100% duty cycle is not allowed, at least not for many longer periods
--
Klaus Kragelund
Klaus Kragelund

Re: charging the bootstrap cap
John Larkin wrote:

Right, but this approach is not intended for "long enough output
pulses". Use an SN6501 and a tiny trafo wound on a 6-10mm toroidal core
and there will be no low frequency limit.

Isn't it kind of obvious?

No high-performance driver I know of has this feature. SN6501 is dirt
cheap and can power more than one driver.
Best regards, Piotr

Right, but this approach is not intended for "long enough output
pulses". Use an SN6501 and a tiny trafo wound on a 6-10mm toroidal core
and there will be no low frequency limit.

Isn't it kind of obvious?

No high-performance driver I know of has this feature. SN6501 is dirt
cheap and can power more than one driver.
Best regards, Piotr

Re: charging the bootstrap cap
On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 09:53:58 +0100, Piotr Wyderski

If the controller is counting on the upper driver to perform in
response to a falling charge pump voltage in a predictable way,
adding an external source could open a new can of worms.
I don't see an inhibit line . . . .
RL

If the controller is counting on the upper driver to perform in
response to a falling charge pump voltage in a predictable way,
adding an external source could open a new can of worms.
I don't see an inhibit line . . . .
RL

Re: charging the bootstrap cap
Am 13.01.21 um 21:52 schrieb John Larkin:

I had good results with these when biasing a GaASFET:
<
https://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/vishay-semiconductor-opto-division/VOM1271T/VOM1271TTR-ND/3588700
>
A LED and some photo cells. Does not create any noise.
Gehard

I had good results with these when biasing a GaASFET:
<
https://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/vishay-semiconductor-opto-division/VOM1271T/VOM1271TTR-ND/3588700
>
A LED and some photo cells. Does not create any noise.
Gehard
Site Timeline
- » who know the ?XGODY?? how's feel?
- — Next thread in » Electronics Design
-
- » Interesting domestic LED design circuitry
- — Previous thread in » Electronics Design
-
- » Procedure for inverse Laplace transformation to calculate periodic switch-on processes...
- — Newest thread in » Electronics Design
-
- » Robust voltage regulator
- — Last Updated thread in » Electronics Design
-
- » Procedure for inverse Laplace transformation to calculate periodic switch-on processes...
- — The site's Newest Thread. Posted in » Electronics Design
-
- » accidentally cut off 24 pin ATX power connector and want to reattach, question
- — The site's Last Updated Thread. Posted in » Electronics Repair
-