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On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 18:47:14 -0400, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:

Only when you curse and rant. I occasionally engage you on technical issues without personal comment. I do that for anyone who seriously wants to discuss electronics. When people turn a technical discussion personal by starting insults, things tend to run away.

Rickman's default is to add insults. So is yours.

I can't help people changing my circuits. I posted a couple of versions, before and after lunch, and the "after" started up a little nicer. I'm not too concerned about startup beauty. Output ripple doesn't matter much in the application at hand, but it would be easy to add more output capacitance if it did matter. That would need to be a HV cap.

I kinda like this one. It uses a cheap stock Coiltronics dual-winding inductor as an autotransformer. Those dual Ls are probably wound bifalar and have very low leakage inductance. Autotransformer boosts are not common and have some nice properties.

It might need a soft start. It has 3.5 volts p-p ripple on the 1200 volt output at 2 mA load.

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TEXT 536 -160 Bottom 2 !K1 L1 L2 1 TEXT 216 -408 Left 2 !.tran 12ms startup TEXT 472 -224 Left 2 ;DRQ127 1:1 TEXT 736 272 Left 2 ;0.8V TEXT 992 -224 Left 2 ;MMBD5004 TEXT 112 -472 Left 2 ;HV SUPPLY J LARKIN June 29, 2015 TEXT 792 -312 Left 2 ;500V

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 
picosecond timing   precision measurement  

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com 
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On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 17:17:58 -0700, John Larkin Gave us:

Figured out how to get rid of the long line for Usenet's sake, eh?

What an achievement!

Invaded yet another thread too. You are batting a thousand, ripple boy!

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

The 2 uF cap was inherited from the LT Spice demo sim, which is why it had all that TDK junk appended. Yes, I turned it into an ordinary cap to avoid the line wrap, which always confuses the newbies.

If you want to insult me, lame childish insults won't work. Be a real man and say something specifically bad about the circuits I design. For extra credit, post something better.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 
picosecond timing   laser drivers and controllers 

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com 
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
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On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:25:41 -0700, John Larkin Gave us:

There was no confusion here, idiot. Nice try though.

I read the thread and was aware of your pathetic f*ck-up before I DL'd and edited the mostly copy and pasted schematic. You shouldn't even put your name on it, or even be allowed to for that matter.

Oh, and it is public domain, BTW.

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And yet you don't seem inhibited in the least when you're prancing 
about, bandying anything about which suits your fancy. 

But just let someone else comment on your foibles and you're up in 
arms at once, crying: "FOUL!" and referencing restrictions which you 
seem to feel apply to everyone here but you. 

Much is the same when you're found to be in error technically, but 
your tack then is to muddy the water by snippage, by ad hominem 
attack, by refusing to address the issue squarely, by changing the 
subject continually until the initial focus is lost and, under no 
circumstances, to admit to error unless it's trivial and admission 
would bestow upon you an aura of magnanimity. 

John Fields
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On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 01:53:18 -0500, John Fields Gave us:

Well said. Have you been watching "The Last Ship" by chance?

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

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Not yet, but I can get season 1 on Netflix. Is it worth it?
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On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 05:10:13 -0500, John Fields Gave us:

A contagious disease kills most of the population of the world. A Navy ship out at sea is among the only survivors and fights to develop and administer a cure.

A lot of disciplined behavior, if you like that. Violent tho.

A change of pace from my sci fi genre stuff.

What you said made me think of it. I wanted to salute you. ;-)

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

Post something better.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 
picosecond timing   precision measurement  

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com 
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
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OK... 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qjfvo95noq6ehq9/12%20bit%20tracking%20ADC.asc?dl=0 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sbsk2r7omh8n61q/74hc191.asy?dl=0 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/z7lxdh7tswdyzli/74HC.lib?dl=0 

Download them all into the same folder and then run the .asc file. 

Be patient.
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